Carl, This is exactly what I was talking about, people quoting MEDIA figures as scientific evidence. Also, we're not talking Porsches, or Chevys, or anything else besides Z-cars. Can you explain why my US-market 260Z, and all others I've seen, say "162hp" on the engine plate? I also doubt my early 260Z weighs that much much more than a 240Z. The only real differences between the two are more heavy duty bumpers, bumper shocks, some extra wires and a rear ARB. I've yet to weigh those parts to see what they add but I can to it today, plus I've got early 240Z bumpers to compare with. The 260Z definitely weighs more than an earlier 240Z, but as you saw, it won't make a huge difference in performance. I completely disagree that "emissions equipment" took off 26hp. What emissions equipment are we talking about here? EGR only affects part-throttle performance (and actually makes it better). The AIR system was shared with 240Zs. EVAP equipment has no effect on performance. PCV is on all Z's. Throttle opener solenoids are on both models and don't affect power. So, we see that the ancillary emissions equipment has nothing to do with it. How about engine changes? Engine displacement increased by 0.2L in the 260Z. Compression ratio might have dropped a tiny bit compared to the E31 headed 240Zs, but it's the same as later 240Zs (which were rated at 151hp) at 8.8:1. Speaking of carbs, the funny thing is that the flat-tops "allow more adjustability for air/fuel ratio's (sic)," as you put it. Flat tops have separate idle and WOT circuits, unlike the round-tops. Spark timing curves did change. The 240Z had 17deg initial timing and 12deg of centrifugal advance for 29deg of total timing at WOT. The 260Z had 7deg of initial timing but a whopping 26deg of centrifugal advance, making for 33deg total at WOT. Thus, the 260Z had a more aggressive timing profile! The 260Z cam is more aggressive because of an increase in displacement. The cam did not detract from performance. The 260Z intake is said to flow and distribute the mixture better than the 240Z manifolds. I have not tested this. However, both the 260Z cam and intake are sought after by guys wanting to use stock parts to make their 240Z perform better. Do you see anything I don't see in terms of losing 26hp? I sure as heck don't! As far as I'm concerned and been able to determine, the US 260Z had 11 more horsepower than the 240Z. References: 1972 240Z FSM 1974 260Z FSM