Everything posted by Zed Head
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Fuel Pump Relay Location
On a 76 it is actually right above the hood release handle, left of the steering column. Held in place with a couple of screws. About 1x1x2.5". Not sure where they put it in 77 though. One more place to look though. Per Steve Blake's comment - I have a spare 76 replay that came with my car. The previous owner bought it and found that that was not the problem. I don't think they go bad often. They don't suffer much abuse inside the car. The first thing that I would do is to disconnect the small wire on the starter, turn the key to Start and listen for the pump. It's just a small electric motor back by the gas tank. If you don't hear it then you can assume it's either dead or not getting power. If you do hear it, then you can focus on fuel lines, filters, tank, etc. You can't hear it with the engine cranking. Then before you take the pump out or change the relay (if you don't hear the pump), put a voltmeter on the pump contacts and have someone turn the key. This will tell you if the relay is working. etc, etc. It will save you some money.
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New guy needs help
Here is a picture of the filter. It is big. But as EScanlon suggests, you should probably check a few things out before you start replacing parts. Jumping from "won't fire" to "change fuel filter" is not the best way to go. You can spend a lot of money and end up worse off than when you started.
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What next?!
Full disclosure - I have a different name over on Hybridz. I was never a forum person until I got this car. I originally signed up just to see the pictures. Here is a related post by me on the same topic over at Hybridz - http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/94554-aeromotive-fpr-and-liquid-filled-pressure-gauges-underhood-heat-durability/page__p__890204__fromsearch__1#entry890204 Tony D had some good advice on gauges.
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What next?!
I had spent months driving my stock 1976 car around trying to figure out why it seemed to run rich. Gassy exhaust, sooty plugs, 16 - 18 mpg all the time. The fuel pressure checked right at 36 psi on a cold engine. Finally, over about a week, the gassy smell got terrible (one guy behind me actually flipped me the bird as he passed, it was that bad) and the mileage dropped to 15 mpg. I checked the fuel pressure hot and found that my FPR had finally gone completely bad, pressure was up around 42 psi, maybe higher while I was driving. I installed an Aeromotive adjustable regulator (high quality Craigslist bargain) for the same reason you are thinking and the car runs much better, running like a normal car now. Clean exhaust smell, the idle doesn't drop to 500 momentarily when I stop, mileage improved to 20 mpg consistent. What I determined was that my original FPR allowed too much pressure when it got hot, but looked fine when it was cold. Expanding parts, seals going bad, whatever. So my checks on a cold engine didn't tell what was happening while I was driving. In summary, if everything else checks out, or maybe before you check everything else out, make sure that your FPR is working correctly, at running temperature. I get 36 now without the vacuum tube hooked up and about 25 at idle with it connected and the engine is running great. I did drive around with my temporary in-line gauge zip-tied down to verify pressure. A few odd facts - I can pull the tiny hose that pulls vacuum on the A/C canister and notice an increase in idle speed, it's that sensitive to leaks. If I pull the oil cap off it dies. The Aeromotive regulators will not hold pressure after the pump turns off. It is documented in the instructions that come with it. The valve inside is just a steel ball on an aluminum seat, no polymer seal. (As a result, my engine, with the stock looped fuel rail, takes a few seconds to fill and repressurize the the rail before starting. With the old (bad) FPR it would hold pressure and start right up.) One more thing - Months ago, I had the typical warm start problem, where the car is hard to start then runs like dirt for about 10 seconds, back when I had a set of injectors going bad. I put six new BWD injectors in and that problem is completely gone. In retrospect, it seems like the old injectors might have been flooding the manifold with gas, as they leaked out. Just a guess. Finally, for what it's worth, the liquid-filled pressure gauges can be heat sensitive and will read incorrectly. It is documented around the net. So be careful where you mount it if you get one. Sorry for the novel - just wanted to get it all out there...
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water temp sensor/thermotime switch ID
The thermotime switch wires run to the cold start valve. You should be able to see the wires without tearing too much apart.
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'69 240z, #299
Thanks for clarifying Mike. I missed your link to EvilC's comment. So what the Craigslist poster shows is not what he is selling.
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'69 240z, #299
Things might have changed since those pictures were taken, looking at the old 2008 thread. I didn't realize that they were so old, and that this conversation has taken place before. I read through it but didn't see anything about four trees falling on it. That would change the situation.
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'69 240z, #299
How can you tell so much from the pictures? I don't see any major damage. The driver's side floor pan is not rusted through, The only visible dents are the one on the front of the hood. I don't see any major rust-through. Engine and transmission still in it and hooked up. Suspension components ans wheels appear to be intact. Looks like it is missing some interior and exterior parts, but has all of the glass. Too bad it's so far away, the leaves and moss might be hiding a good project. It seems like #299 would be worth the effort. I'm new to the Z game though so maybe not.
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77 Hi Beam trouble
I have mentioned this before but I had the same issue on a 78 parts car and just sprayed the dimmer switch at the base of the turn signal stalk full of Deoxit DN5, without removing it. It feels like cheating but it worked and it is still working. Also had the same problem with my current 76 car. I took the stalk and switch off, looked at what it would take to disassemble it, plus not knowing exactly what was inside, and decided to hose it with Deoxit first to see if that's where the problem was. It worked and I never did take it apart. It still works great. Both cars had sat for while, the 76 an unknown amount, and the 78 ten years, without being used.
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Erratic volt gauge
My battery terminals got dirty and my car did the same thing when starting. Voltmeter dropped to zero, then went back up when I let go of the key. It's typically the terminal connections or a bad battery. I cleaned the terminals and it's back to normal.
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Battery ground wire question
Examine the fusible links first. Didn't you say that they are in the car? If you're lucky it may be a fusible link that was melting, like it's supposed to, not your harness wires. The insulation on the links doesn't melt completely, just the wire inside, so you'll need to take a good look at them. I don't know if they smoke when they go or not. If you find a bad link, figure out what wires it feeds and follow those out to find the short. If all of your links are good, expose the ignition switch and wires on the steering column. If you had smoke, you should have bubbled, melted looking insulation on a wire or two. Look at the wires by the fuse box and fusible links. Edit - I was writing as Geezer was posting. I think we're on the same page though. You need to find the circuit that is shorted before you start tearing things apart. Disconnect your battery until you find the melted insulation. Don't use the smoke to find the short. More smoke just means more damage.
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Battery ground wire question
If you have wires smoking with the ignition on, it looks like you already have too many grounds. Find the "extra" ground (the short) and the proper ones might work correctly. You may have already created new shorts from wires melting together. It might be too late.
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Piston ring replacement
Looking back over this, these two statements logically suggest that the problem is in the head, if work was only done on the head. Valve seals installed wrong maybe? If it didn't blow smoke before and you only worked on the head and it blows smoke now, the head would be the first place to look.
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Piston ring replacement
Did it smoke before you rebuilt the head? If not, there would really be no reason for the rings to suddenly go bad. And you said it seems to be "gas rich" but then you focus on rings. It seems like a lot of work to replace the rings, only to find out you were actually running rich. If you have carbs it should be relatively easy to lean it out and see if things improve before you disassemble the engine. Just trying to help reason things out...
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Condenser wire smoking
The "ignition power jumper wire" might actually be one of the fusible links. The fusible link for the 280Z looks like a piece of wire with a female spade connector on each end. They are designed to melt (fuse) before the rest of your wiring does. I'm not sure what the ZX links look like but they perform the same way. Sounds like yours did what it was supposed to do. And a condenser (capacitor) would only smoke it if it was shorted. But the only condenser I can think of is on the alternator housing and would have fried when you connected the battery if it was shorted, not when you hit Start. Are you sure that it is a condenser? Where is it located? What does it look like? You will need to find the short and get a new fusible link before you go further. Don't replace the link with regular wire, you'll burn some of your wiring harness.
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Random stalling/no restart issue
32 is low for the fuel pressure, unless you were testing while the engine was running and the vacuum line to the FPR was hooked up. It should run about 36 psi without the engine running (just the fuel pump powered), or with the engine running and FPR vacuum hose disconnected. You could have an FPR problem or a fuel pump problem. Of course, this might not be related to your stalling issue at all.
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1971 240Z - $3000 Beaverton OR
Here's another earlier model - http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/1919054177.html If I am wasting people's time reposting Craig's List, let me know.
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1972 240Z in Knappa OR (by Astoria) $400
Someone here might be interested. From CL 2 days ago - http://portland.craigslist.org/nco/pts/1921551565.html The dash alone might be worth the money...?
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Rear suspension advice requested
I think that the nose of the diff tends to drop on deceleration using the engine compression. I have read reports elsewhere of the rear driveshaft flange rubbing on the rear sway bar. That might be worth a look, regarding the Gatling gun noise, if you are running just the RT style mount and have removed the stock one. I have played around with the moustache bar stock mounts to get rid of "clunking" using stacks of rubber and metal washers and found that the tighter it gets the more gear noise you get. That is noise transmitted up through the body, the stock mounts are still isolating the sideways vibration. So rubber insulators might be worth a look but you will still have the vibration path sideways, with the hard urethane mounts, from the moustache bar through to the metal sleeve which contacts the car body (as ZODB said above). I'm interested in what you find, I have held off installing the urethane mounts due to the gear noise issue.
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needs this car working
I went through the slave cylinder replacement, then both slave and master cylinder replacement scenario recently myself. Then the clutch started acting up again, I thought it was one more bad slave cylinder. But after rechecking the cylinders for leaks and rebleeding the system, I eventually found that the lock nut had come loose on the shaft from the pedal to the master cylinder, allowing the rod to work itself shorter. One more thing to check. By the way, it is possible to turn that rod without removing anything. Just use patience, flexibility, the right set of pliers, and one tiny turn at a time.
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More halfshaft issues
On a 280, the half-shaft mating flanges have a fairly tight fit centering section that can get stuck. It is designed to center the flanges. Look at the other end of the half-shaft, it's essentially the same fit on the wheel side. You can tap it loose with a hammer or carefully wedge a screwdriver or chisel in at the interface while rotating the shaft. If you have already knocked out the four bolts, a couple of decent taps with a hammer while rotating the shaft should break it loose. I'm guessing the 260 is similar.
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Transmission Help--4th not working
A quick look at the FSM indicates the the 74 260Z came with a 3 speed automatic. Although, I am new to Z world and could be wrong. I believe that most older cars came with 3 speeds. But I did have a 1963 Pontiac Bonneville, in 1980, with a 4 speed automatic and a 389. It hauled a@@ for a big car.
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Half Shafts
Many people believe (from what I've read on the various forums) that the stock factory u-joints are better than any aftermarket u-joints, if they are not obviously worn-out. Aftermarket u-joints are not as tight, brand-new, as the factory u-joints, in my experience. If the old joints are not dry, you can install some zerk fittings if they're not there already, regrease them and just keep using them. You'll probably be better off. Also, why would the half-shafts be involved in keeping your tires from leaving the ground when jacking up the rear-end? Don't the rear wheels hang from the struts at full extension?
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MSA Alternator upgrade
When I had my alternator fixed (I was working big hours at the time so didn't do it myself, plus there is a lot of stuff under a Pathfinder hood) the Nissan service manager told me that the newer alternators could be damaged if you jumped a car with your engine running. The spikes through the jumper cables going from a dead battery to generating voltage when the other car started or something like that. I had just given someone a jump with my engine running a few weeks before so maybe there's something to it. Just a thought on why your new one may have gone bad.
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MSA Alternator upgrade
Those might be the signs of a bad alternator. I had pulsing dim lights on my 95 Pathfinder when its alternator went bad.