Mike

Well, this post could be a general 'How do I start racing?' question in general. But, more specifically, I am looking to get started racing. But, I don't have a car that I can modify. I'm really looking to be a driver for a team. How does someone go about doing this kind of thing? I could imagine some kind of school for racing and then the school places you in front of prospective sponsors. But, really... how does this work? Is this something I need to start doing on my own with the hopes of picking up a sponsor?

Speaking of rally events. Is there some kind of master list of the different types of rally races that are even possible? I've heard of everything from a real calm "obey the speed limit" type street rally up to the radical off road rally races overseas (WRC comes to mind).

You guys can now start different threads related to rally racing. This means that you don't have to continue using this particular thread to discuss all of the ideas. Just FYI.

240Zlover, Let me get this straight. Are you requesting that someone posts the specs for an L28 engine?

That's got to be a 600 bike. Because there's no way any car would beat some of the new 1000+ CC bikes on the road.

Hi guys, This is sure a popular thread!!! It's so popular, you now get your own forum. Congrats! As you'll notice, I've also created a bigger racing area with different racing forums as well. Keep it rockin!

Hi Marty, Thanks for taking the time to respond. But, I must ask something. What's really different about the 260z and the 280z that would cause the 240z owners to become frustrated about finding information? The 280z has EFI. Granted. But, that's about it. Most other components on a 280z is nearly identical to the 240z. I have added a special forum for EFI information. And, in fact, I am hearing many stories about people installing EFI on their 240z's. So, I would tend to disagree here. The traffic on the big list is prettty bad. And, yes, we started the 240z Club as an alternate mailing list in order to keep the discussions about the 240z only. But, that is related to a mailing list. Since we began, I've added this website which provides us with online forums. The nice thing about the forums is our ability to provide topic-based discussions. This helps users sort through the information to find what they need. In fact, we also have a powerful search engine which also allows us to search for information related to a certain topic. How about this idea? The club name can change to whatever we determine as the best fit (Classic Zcar Club is currently ahead of the game). But, we can leave the mailing list alone. Our mailing list can be limited to 240z discussions. In fact, if we determine that there is a need for additional mailing lists, I can add them as needed. But, I doubt that we'll need more mailing lists with the online forums. Anyway, to keep up with current affairs and make sure the club moves with the changing times... we will continue to persue a name change. However, in order to reflect on our past 'roots' we will keep the mailing list for the elite 240z gang and continue our old rules that all posts to the mailing list must be related to a 240z in some fashion. How does that sound? Sorry for the rambling, but, I just finished my coffee and I don't want to work.

Hey guys, post that inventory sheet as soon as you can. I'm in the market for various things. But, I don't know exactly what I need yet. I need to get out into the garage!

George, It's telling you that you don't have Acrobat Reader installed. (acrord32.exe) Go download it and install on your computer. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Guus, I moved this to the Nissan in the News forum because the image was too big for our main page.

Thoran... picts man... we want picts!!

Agreed. I think my comment to support "all" zcars was merely something I said during a thought process. After thinking about it for some time, I decided that we should remain 'classic only'... I disagree here. Because when we were just a 240z club, I didn't see much activity on the web site. While the mailing list was active with 240z chatter, the website was slow and not many people participated in conversation and/or supporting the club. Ever since I moved to this new database/php system and opened it up to the EARLY or CLASSIC cars, we've been busier than ever. And, I can also hear the argument coming... just because it's busier doesn't mean that it's better. Right. I want to make sure we ARE better. The pure reason for the name change (or formalization) was the 350z. We also had people asking why is this a 240z-only site when most of the other components on a 260z and 280z were all so similar. I'm thinking of the future. When someone thinks about a classic Zcar, they no longer just think about the 240z. They think about the classic lines of the 240z, 260z and 280z. What's that finger mean? Is it your IQ? just kidding I will stay away from supporting ALL of the Zcars. There are plenty of other sites out there for that. But, I think we should consider opening ourselves to discussions about the other early Z's. These cars are so similar, it would be unfair not to support them. Again, the line is drawn at the ZX. We are classics. Remember, as time progresses on there will be fewer classic Zcars on the road. I think we should consider this move a good thing. (the mailing list will not change) [m]

Very nice!! What kind of plug wires are you running? And, I don't recognize that oil filter. What is it? [m]

Nevermind the rims... where the hell can I get that trailer!! I love it!

Go get yourself one of those commercial heat guns. My dad had one and I 'borrowed' it from him for this project. I just heated up the areas I wanted to scrape, and I used a putty knife/chisel to get the stuff to come up. It was a long and grueling task. But, I finally got it all up.

aspnetman, I hope you are going to come back here and keep us updated on your new purchase? I'm curious to see how you like it and see a few pictures!!

Ya, no doubt. That way you can keep the Z as well.

Great idea Doug! In fact, I haven't sent the latest club newsletter yet. So, I better get on top of that as well.

No doubt..... I don't have much experience with the Caprice, but, is that really a car that will keep you on the road? Here's my .02. If the Z option is totally out of the picture, then you have MANY cars to choose from. Don't just limit your options to the Caprice because your uncle wants to sell it to you. I don't know what the circumstances are around that Caprice, but, I can see two possibilities: 1- Uncle wants to get rid of it because it's taking up room at his house. The car is a POS and he can't sell it. So, he sells it to family. 2- The car is in good condition and he's doing you a favor by selling it to you cheap. And, the car will be a good daily driver. I would evaluate the circumstances involved and take a look at the big picture. I drove a Plymouth Scamp while I was in High School and just loved the reliability of that car (sorta like a Dodge Dart). It wasn't the greatest car, but, it was cheap and reliable. The Z sat in the garage while I saved my dollars to work on it. So, I think we are all trying to help you out (because you are a fellow Z owner) like we would our own family. I think we are probably trying to figure out, "Why a Caprice?" rather than not getting rid of the Z. And, with the latest message by Escanlon, we are also trying to give you the best of both worlds.

Hi guys, I might have misled you a little. I'm not really talking about domain names at this point because I think we already have two domains (240z.org and classicZcars.com). I'm really talking about the name of the club. The domains can follow the name and if we want to add another easy to use domain, no problem.... but, our name is important. We started out as the Internet 240z Club. Since then, we've grown to support all early Z's. So, how do we reflect that in our name? Other clubs support all Zcars and I don't think we need to saturate that market. We started out with the classic Z. And, most people know the Z because of the classic. That's why I think we'll grow tremendously. This is all my opinion of course. Maybe later we'll want to grow and support all Z's. But, do we really want to go that route? Maybe this should be a discussion about our future rather than just our name. What do you think?

I've been receiving some questions about an issue related to the actual name of our club. What is it?! My only answer is, I don't really know! So, let's talk about it a little. Let's come up with a great name for our club to make sure we all know who is who. We used to be known as the Internet 240z Club. But, with the advent of the 350z, our new domain registration, and the pure fact that most people on this site own a Classic Zcar... we have been moving toward the support of all EARLY zcars in general. Our new domain name classicZcars.com shows that we are in complete support of the early Z's. And, we've established a virtual line in the sand at the ZX. Therefore, all early Z's 240z, 260z, and 280z's become part of our club. Anyway, let's take this information and determine a proper title for our club. Here's what we have been known as in the past: 1) Internet 240z Club 2) Internet Z Club 3) Early Zcar Club 4) Classic Zcar Club 5) Classic Z Club So, I would like to take this time to get YOUR opinions. What do you think we should use? I will never get rid of our 240z.org domain, and this was all started with the 240z in mind. So, we must not forget our ROOTS. Please go ahead and vote, or if you wish, add your own ideas as a reply to this message. UPDATE: I just wanted to let everyone know that we aren't necessarily looking for new domain name ideas here. We are looking at a FORMAL vote of the club name. We have had a few names in the past and we should determine our final goal. Also note that there are plenty of other "ALL" Zcar clubs on the Internet. I don't think we want to become another Zcar club. We want to remain loyal to our classic roots of the early design. I could be totally wrong here, so, please let me know!

A chevy caprice? C'mon man. Get those U-joints fixed and get that thing back on the road. I grew up with a Z. You're right, it can be strapping at times, but, I don't regret any part of it.

Your right about the heat dissipation. When the brakes get hot, it can can also affect the braking itself. And, poor braking isn't good when you're racing. I think they call it 'brake fade' or a similar term. I have such a problem with drums. They are more complicated and the design itself is just wizz poor. Not sure why it was even invented. The howstuffworks site says something to the effect of easier maintenance with drums. But, I find that hard to believe. I always have difficulty working on my drums because they are either seized tight or the pads don't wear evenly. I almost made the conversion to rear discs, but, I decided not to spend the extra money at the time. I was also scared to go disc because of the proportioning valve. I didn't want to cause a safety issue. Now that I found an adjustable proportioning valve, I might consider it.

Steve, I was also amazed to discover this on my motorcycles. For instance, my Hayabusa has two huge 12" cross-drilled discs on the front while the back only has a single 6"-8" disc. I've heard that the most important side is the front because it takes most of the force when you step on the brake. The rear is only applying enough force to keep you from going out of control. Here is a totally cool site to find out more with braking systems: http://www.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm Watch out for that site. It's addictive. Especially to those of us who like to take things apart just to see how they work.