Everything posted by Captain Obvious
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
I spent a bunch of time taking optional stuff off that my previous owner had put on. So on my list... I guess I forgot about that one so I added it to my list of SOP. Stuff will be out of place. Stuff will be missing. Stuff will be wired wrong. Stuff will be put on backwards. Stuff will be leaking because it's too loose or too tight or because it's standard thread when it should have been metric. Stuff will have been modified and/or added that wasn't done right or are just things that you don't want or need.
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Solution to Creeping Mixture/Idle Speed Screws
Yeah, I only know that because I made the mistake of using the wicking green once on a small screw and then tried to take it apart without heat. Prior to snapping that screw off, I had always assumed that red = high, blue = medium, and green = low. Not so. And I paid the price. Interesting that on the page for the wicking grades they say that it's easy removal and ideal for small screws. What I think they mean is: "It's easily removable with the application of heat", and "It's ideal for small screws because you don't have to hold the small screw in your hand and make a mess out of everything trying to apply the locker to the screw threads before assy. You can apply it after assy which might make it easier to apply." That's my read anyway. I agree that the wicking grade is the best choice for the carb stuff so you can apply the thread lock last after you have all the adjustments made where you want them. But I do think if you don't any of the wicking stuff, the ubiquitous blue medium strength non-wicking grade (blue 242?) would probably work OK instead. Take the screw in question partway out and put some on the exposed threads and then quickly try to get it "close" to where you ultimately want it before the threadlock sets up. Then after that point, do your tuning. It won't hold as well, but I'm thinking it would probably be good enough.
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'72 240Z Rebuild
I'm no engine builder, but I've lapped a couple valves and about the only advice I can offer is... To start, use a finer grade of lapping compound than you think you need. You can always move to a more aggressive grit later if the fine stuff doesn't do what you need. And if you're not trying to get rid of large imperfections, you want a fine grit. And I don't recommend this stuff... They call it a "multi-grade" compound where there is a mix of different sized particles in the base slurry and as you use it, the larger particles move out of the way letting the smaller ones make contact: Unfortunately, I think that's the only stuff you can walk into your parts store and buy off the shelf. I've got a couple fixed grades that are much fine than this. I think I have a lifetime supply and would be happy to send you some of what I have.
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Solution to Creeping Mixture/Idle Speed Screws
I'm no expert on the topic, but the green 290 is not a low strength lock. It's actually a "medium/high" strength wicking lock. I think if you use the 290 and get it applied correctly, you could be very sorry. I'm think the wicking grade 220 blue would be a better choice if you were convinced that you needed a wicking grade. http://www.henkelna.com/us/content_data/339213_11656_LT4985_ThreadlockerGuide_v6_F_LR.pdf
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1157 bulb sockets
Not sure if matters or not, but the original insulator disk had "wing" tabs on both sides and in addition, the width of the tabs on the two sides were different because that was how they ensured the disk could only go into the socket one way. If you try to put the disk in the wrong way, the wide tab won't fit in the narrow slot that was designed for the narrow tab. All that stuff is necessary since the bulb has two different filaments and they aren't the same wattage. You have to align the correct filament with the correct wire with the correct pin on the side of the bayonet. (Does any of that make sense at all......?)
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
That still makes me laugh! Like the guy with the house window air conditioner sticking out his car window.
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
Yup. After seeing the additional pics, I really think it's a cruise system. I can see the cable linkage that comes out of the can and yanks on the beaded chain. it comes out of the module with what looks like a small thin diameter cable and goes into a coupler that transitions to the beaded chain. The coupler is probably there to account for adjustment on the length of the pull. Another mystery solved?
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
OK, I got one wild guess... Maybe he put in an aftermarket cruise control and that was the clutch pedal kick-off switch? WAG. On edit. I took another look at your engine bay pics looking for some sort of cruise control actuator diaphragm, but didn't see one. I did, however, see what looks like more of that chain on your gas pedal linkage right near where the linkage passes through the bulkhead wall. Take a look right behind your EGR valve. Pull it! Pull it! On second edit... There does appear to be an unidentified device on top of your brake master cylinder that has a couple vacuum lines going to it. Can't see the whole thing because it's way down in the corner of your pic. Can only see part of it but that might be some sort of cruise device and uses that chain in the engine compartment to actuate the throttle. Can you take a pic that includes more of that corner of the engine compartment?
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
That's just weird. I have no idea what's up with that. And that's the kind of thing that makes me wonder what kind of problem the previous owner was chasing.
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1157 bulb sockets
When I was messing with my sockets a couple days ago, one of them was so rusty that I felt I couldn't do an adequate job cleaning it up while it was all assembled, so I started pushing and pulling the socket apart. I think I was even able to push the metal tube portion up out of the plastic holder. Point is, I think you might be able to reuse your original plastic housing portion and just replace the metal interior section with a new one. That might be another option if we can't find a suitable mechanical replacement? Same fit into the tail lamp housing as before, but new metal where the bulb inserts?
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
It's a mid to late 77 (if that matters) and it's been repainted. What do I win?
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'72 240Z Rebuild
What do you mean by "drop"? Are you saying that the weight of the valve itself is enough to pull it down against the friction of the seal? If it weren't for the seal getting hung up on the keeper groove, the valve would fall completely out of the head? I've never tried that, but I always assumed the valve seals were tighter than that. Not the case?
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
What do you mean??? You don't like surprises? Personally, I'm dying to know what's going to happen when he pulls that chain!! Release the Kraken?
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Blocking internet ads
That's awesome. Wish I had thought of that!
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'72 240Z Rebuild
I've read through the threads where people are using these seals on the L engines and it's clear they weren't designed for the application. I understand the advantage, but the whole thing makes me a little uncomfortable. You have to get them on straight and there's no registration surface to ensure that happens. You have to get them on the right depth and there's no positive stop when pressing them on. Just wasn't designed for the application. I've never used those seals, but I'd try something like this... Use a feeler gauge to measure the width of the gap at the bottom of the ones you've pressed on and then find (or make) a flat washer of that same thickness (maybe a couple thousandths thicker). Cut a slot in the washer to convert it from a donut shape into a "C" shape. The slot width should be just wide enough to fit around the width of the valve guide. Then you can put this washer in place around the guide BEFORE you press the seal on. The washer should help provide not only a stop for depth, but it could also act as the perpendicular registration surface to help get the seal pressed on straight. Once the seal is in place, pull the washer out from the side?
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280Z Difficulty starting
Why is your RPM so low right after starting? My guess would be because internal combustion engines are never really happy at idle. They're unstable down that far and they're unstable when their cold. They're particularly unstable when they're cold AND turning slow. Sometimes they have trouble getting themselves into a more stable state. I saw in one of your videos that once it finally caught and continued to run, it stumbled for a couple seconds, but once you hit the gas, it steadied out to a 1000 RPM smooth idle? Did I see that right? The "Start Enrichment" supplied by the ECU is a real thing, but it's not a huge adder. It's a circuit in there that charges up when the key is turned to START and then slowly decays over a period of maybe thirty seconds or so after the key has been returned to ON. Air temp sensor or water temp sensors will definitely affect mixture, but here's the thing... The higher the resistance, the more fuel. And it's a lot easier to fault to a higher resistance than a lower one. Dirty connectors and open wires contribute to higher resistance. About the only thing you could do to get LOWER resistance is short one of your sensor wires to ground which is unlikely. In other words... If the signal gets interrupted, you'll run rich, not lean. Once it starts, does it make black smoke? How do the plugs look? I'm still trying to figure out if you're running rich or lean.
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Project Boondoggle (or, so I went and bought a Z!)
Well I don't know what it was that went wrong with your paint application, but something certainly affected the adherence between the primer and the top coat. But regardless of how well the top coat gripped the primer, it all (top coat and primer) came off with the gasoline, right? I know very little about paint. All I know for sure is that I probably know less than you do!
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280Z Difficulty starting
So no new info there, huh? While you have the starter fluid handy... Next time it fails to start on the first attempt, before you try a second time, maybe pull off a vacuum hose and give it a shot of the starter fluid and then put the hose back on. Try to get a sense if it's looking for more fuel or not. If it fires right up to a steady(er) idle on the second attempt, it would be an indication that it's lean. Just trying to gather info....
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Project Boondoggle (or, so I went and bought a Z!)
Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember you had issues with the paint. I've read reviews of Eastwood's stuff and it seems their stuff can be very sensitive to the application process. With that in mind, I took a quick look at the instructions for the chassis black stuff and I'm confused about what is the correct application procedure... The chassis black primer instructions say you can recoat or topcoat after 24 hours. However, the chassis black top coat instructions say wait 4 hours and then spray the top coat. Doesn't make sense to me. In any event, I'm not a paint guy, but I've never had good solvent resistance from any paint that wasn't catalyzed or at least CA based (like POR15). The 2K aerosol stuff (I linked to above) is catalyzed and I would expect it to be much more solvent resistant.
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
Me? It means you've got what looks like a great start for project. It means we've all been there. Stuff will be out of place. Stuff will be missing. Stuff will be wired wrong. Stuff will be put on backwards. Stuff will be leaking because it's too loose or too tight or because it's standard thread when it should have been metric. It's standard operating procedure.
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
Yeah, that car has been messed with in too many ways to count. Nothing insurmountable and certainly not unusual. Most used Z's are like that. Just always makes me wonder what kind of problem the previous owner we chasing.
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Project Boondoggle (or, so I went and bought a Z!)
Haha! And if you're going to paint a gas tank, I would try to find a paint that is fuel proof.... Signed, Captain Obvious. PS - Maybe some of Eastwoods "catalyzed in a can" spray paint? I haven't tried it, but I suspect it's fuel proof or at least fuel resistant. Wear a good respirator... http://www.eastwood.com/paints/2k-aero-spray-paints.html
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Restoring a 1977 280z! (My first z car)
I'll add an independent plug for Wayne's wiring diagram. It's better than sliced bread. If you have a 77 and don't yet have a copy of this thing, you are doing yourself a huge disservice. It's too late now (since it's been out there in the public domain for so long), but this diagram is so good, that you should have to pay for it. So glad we don't have to, but we all should have.