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Jerry, fantastic job ! Vented roter looked super cool, you made a good decision. Kats

Hi Blue, nice pictures! I bought the Australian HS30 with Kimono dressed girl on ebay, but I am not happy the quality of print. Yours are very high resolution, nice. Do not you think the HS30 sits high in front? The chrome mirror, it is unique but I like door mirror much more. The Brussels car. Looks like its rear is quite high , as if the car was jacked up then lowerd to the floor. Both cars should have normal suspention compornents. The safari gold Car Magazine Nov 1970 car, might have Current Europe version suspention(same spring rate and F/R stabilizer as Z432), but not lowered front. For us, we know Mr.Goertz had nothing to do with S30 styling. He showed how to make a clay model in general. Nissan designers knew a lot of fantastic sports cars out there , they wanted to make a cool sports car for their own. And they had never seen A550X(Mr.Goertz's study) at that time. Only very a few people saw that but it had never been looked atrractive. April 16th 2015, Mr.Tamura passed away. I still can not post everything from his letter, it is too heavy to do that, but when the time comes, I will do one by one. Kats

Today's work, My blue 240Z is now a daily driver, once it was like new , but not now. I replaced a thermo switch , and checked SU chambers. They were needed to be fixed,I enjoyed it . Kats

Gavin, Blue, and Alan, yes the C shape rubber cap is a safty feature for preventing dragging nice dress , however you can catch beautiful women as long as driving S30 even if you have C caps at both ends I am looking for where the description is, made by Mr. Matsuo ? or Mr. Uemura ? or someone involved S30 development. From the pictures Nissan did not think the cap was only for Japan at the begining, but after starting regular export Nissan decided took them off, why ? Like a sprash pan, I do not get it the difference between Japan and other country. Mike, that stuff is first time for me, I have never seen it before, it is so cool, please let us know what you think interesting. And I thought the word "salesman" would be Japanese-English , but it is not! heyitsrama, Alan explained precisely , I have heard from the 432R owner, the under cover is good for racing but not good for city drving, stop and go traffic causes over heating in a hot summer . Kats

Thank you every one! A lot of imputs make this thread alive! Gav240z, your 240Z has an unique holder, same as the picture and Z432 too. I think this holder was shared with SP/SR roadstar, was not it? In this picture, we see the wheel was for a SP/SR roadster because it has cap teeth ! For Z432 , if owner chose 5 magnesium wheels , the spare tire holder was chosen this (like a tap of fire pump) , shape of the center hub can not accept a dish holder which is used for a steel wheel. Some owner chose a steel wheel for the spare tire, to reduce price. My elder sister PS30-00087 has the tap holder, but slightly different from mine. The yellow Z432 is PS30-00013,my Z432 has same tap as 00013 (I added a rubber sheet I do not want to scrach center hub) . And my blue 1970 240Z. Kats

One more tonight's upload, here is an interesting booklet," Nissan Fairlady-Z text book for sales man " issued Nov 1969. It contains many pictures which were not seen in other manuals. Interesting thing is " ...if a potential customer has a son, you must approach to his son , from our data many customers are admitting their son's opinion..." And funny cartoon ,also nice to see, I like it. Some pictures are very useful to confirm early parts, or prototype uniqueness. You see unusual carpet fasteners, rear deck jack handle mount,spare tire holders, tool box lid looked very simple and even the carpet around there it has fasteners. A emergency brake handle, looks like borrowed from other cars. Three combination gauges looked a little dull ,not straight. A rear gate supporting bracket attached to the rear gate, it has same shape as my Z432, but different from my other cars. An artificial interior picture, Mr.Matsuo told us Nissan had just bought a computer to print pictures which can make it in artificial effect. It took many ours, set before going home and done in the next morning . Kats PS. Do you know why only Japanese S30 has a rubber "C shape " cap at both side of rear side bumper ?

Thank you Chris, I would like to see your 26th and 27th ! I hope they are doing good. Kats

I found this car still has original exhaust and muffler all the way to the exit. It is very hard to see , but I can see "72 05 (or 06) " on the center pre muffler and the rear end muffler. Pretty straight floor makes me happy. Also some numbers on the rear differential , "72 5 " looks like May 1972, what do you think of it ? Kats

Periodical maintenance 240ZG, My car is now Kyoto Nissan for Shaken (should have checked every two years ) I replaced a clutch operating cylinder last month, it is also checked by mechanics. This time I want to add a rear stabilizer, the reason why I want to do is , I was looking at original owner's note which was written when he bought the car new , he wrote " too much under steers, too much body roll, are there brackets for a rear stabilizer? I need to talk about Z432 or race option stabilizer , price will be 7000-8000 yen" I do not have any problem with this car but I want to make it instead of the original owner. Kats

This is Mr. Takei , he was a leader of the Europe test group, and after Final Europe Version established, he spent 4 months with the car in Europe. What a wonderful man ! Kats

I think this picture posted by Alan, thanks in advance. This car has a rear spoiler only, and before March 1971, this might be Portugal version. It is a little bit complicated,Portugal version was originally called "Current Europe Version" . The report explanes in page 3, "...June 1970 Current Europe Version was established .." . This Current Europe Version has same suspension as Z432 and has only a rear spoiler. This version was sent to DATSUN Netherland in August 1970, then they reported back in November 1970 , the team must be so shocked by the report, you can see it at the bottom "The side wind stability is very Bad " This is caused by the following point..." Mr.Takei said in a magazine " I remember it was in 1970, someone sent two 240Zs to Europe. I had thought we should not do it, it was not ready yet" " We had got the report, criticized severely. They said the car was not a sports car.Then we asked what they wanted, they told us like this, " In cold weather, with cross wind 20kts, a car can do max 200km/h and cruise 180km/h, that is minimum requirement" . " As an engineer, I wanted to try it, I was full of energy. We were told that we had to make it by the spring of 1971..." So, before June 1970, all the export 240Z has same spec. After that, Current Europe Version established. Then March 1971, Final Europe Version established. Current Europe Version was not pretty for DATSUN Netherland ,however Nissan decided Current Europe Version must remain in a line up as a Portugal Version. Kats

Thanks Jason240z ! My English contains mistakes always, so anyone can correct me for our documentation. Here are some pictures, the first one is USA 240Z, the second one is U.K. 240Z, I think U.K. 240Z looked lower in front,so this car must be the Final Europe version. The 3rd and 4th are LHD Europe 240Z, this might be also a Final Europe version as is has spoilers both front and rear. And this car is earlier than the green U.K. car judged by hubcaps. According to the report, the test completed in March 1971. This red car could be a very early Final Europe version. The 5th and 6th are Australian 240Z, cleanest exterior I love it so much. Kats

Page1 Title :HLS30Q (Z Europe model) countermeasures High speed stability test Objective: countermeasure S30 crosswind stability and set spec of Europe export model Date : from February 1970 to 27th March 1971 1 Outline Soon after S30 went on sale, poor cross wind stability was heard. To export S30 to Europe market , we knew it was a very important key to develop and raise its stability at high speed and in cross wind situation to the level of satisfied. K42( car / chassis test ) had started basic study and development about crosswind stability using domestic S30 well before this program began . From May 1970, that activity succeeded to this program, and continued testing, developing Europe model. Finally, the difference from North American model (HLS30U) is, a) style element Front spoiler and rear spoiler added b ) suspension element strengthening sping rate and stabilizer front and rear front and rear shock absorber's damping force up applied 5J -14 rim and 175-HR14, applied C30 rack mounting insulator (Replaced from SUGURI type) Kats

Alan's explanation is perfect, that is what I wanted to say. About section code, we see various K codes on the left column of the HLS30Q report, with cross refference , they areK10 and K20 chassis desigen, layout/ K30 Engine,power train /K60 prototype making / 360 auxiliary unit engineering (Alan can give the best interprit about this) e.t.c. Let's find out section codes which give us more interesting imagination. Kats

Hi, I installed the warning system for my 12/1971 (HLS30-60213) car which originally was not intended to come with it. Shortly after my car, the system launched (according to the service bulletin, HLS30-62001 is the first car ) However as I show below, my car is unique betweenness. I found the big dents at the floor both behind seats, it made me think that I want to have the system, so I collected retractable belts, lights, harnesses, connectors, etc. I strictly set the goal to be able to return the car as it was, so some wiring is different from original warning system.I did not modify any original harnesses nor original connectors, I use original system and I made a system just plug it in . My experience will not perfectly work for you but, I hope something will assist your refreshing work. Kats

Alan, you pointed out Takahashi - Tori Shimari Yaku (director) on the top left of the test report, I found him ! In the colored figure, the very left is Mr.Hara (director) who was also very important the birth of S30, Mr.K and Mr.Matsuo and other designers and engineers are all saying very good memories about him.Mr.Hara was a car guy, I guess. Next him is Mr.Takahashi , we have no idea about him. The third picture is Mr.Hara.

Before that, I found new today, about a department code(ID) , we talked about it before in another thread, very first S30 prototype making sequence . Each car has each department to belong, we did not know what "K11" means. Now I see K11 is Dai Ichi Soukatsu Ka (general affairs section No.1) in Dai Ichi Sharyo Sekkei Ka (Chassis layout/ mechanical design department No.1 ) I have Nissan footage books( Alan you have them too) ,this 1964-1973 has a lot of interesting information. Please see the attached pictures. Kats

S20 needs a little more work / effort to enjoy , maintain than L series engine, but yes there is nothing fundamentally wrong with S20. That is why I can not be apart, I am correcting engine parts and even I am going to obtain an used S20. If you hear the S20's roar, feel the heart beat, you will love it. Kats

Yes , I think so too ! What a nice family. Mr.Maruyama said he loved the Topy wheel very much ! Kats

Thank you everyone, my like button run out today, sorry I could not hit all of them, tomorrow I will ! Like Alan said, Datsun Netherland advised a lot , and Mr.Takei is the important engineer about this. He talked about this in some magazines, we can read it with cross reference techniques.I will refer the articles later. Kats

Thank you Alan, I have read that thread started by Blue, a lot of information there, I should read that first, thank you Alan , Blue too. Alan you are telling "it is not that easy story ,a history has very complicated stories behind " . I have got you. After reading that, "politics " is the key word for me, I think Nissan wanted to have victory as many as possible by S20 , the car was GTR. Same time Nissan wanted S30 to win with S20 first , but then L 24. For Nissan, winning various car , various engine is good thing to appeal their ability to people. The fact that terrible vibration occurred PZR's FS5C71A which many factory racers complained could affect Nissan's "politics" pushed forward , I mean switching plan LR24 came earlier than they expected, did not ? Or the vibration problem was just a bad compatibility of PZR and S20? Was it just coincident ? GTR would have same problem but Murayama fixed it nicely and immediately? Or even that problem was " already expected", Nissan knew it ? Nissan would have a retirement plan of PZR in 1970 so , they chose remaining as it is rather than solving the problem? Very interesting ! Kats PS the pictures is Mr.Maruyama , he was a senior captain of B777 retired at age of 65 last year, I flew with him on his "Last Flight". He knew I have Zs, he kindly let me see his younger days in the sky. His farther bought the new car 1975 S30 for him, Mr.Maruyama said "my father was so excited about his son became a pilot trainee, I still thank my father because I did not have that big money for buying it ..." Mr.Maruyama owned it 10 years, where is the car now?

Hello, I think the best performance 240Z is Europe model, after seeing this report. I try to show and I do my best , I hope you enjoy. First of all, Nissan started development faithfully from February 1970 for the Euro model . Not before the beginning of its production. Nissan did not think about being famous in Europe? Or they wanted to do the development without hurrying up? Anyway March 1971, they finally set the spec like this, Final Europe version Stabilizer bar front 22mm / rear 20mm Stiffer spring front & rear Stiffer shock absorber front & rear Front height minus 15mm Spoilers front & rear With this spec, the optional magnesium wheels (same as Z432 )would add more better handling and performance, I saw some car has the wheels in Europe. One interesting note is, there is a "Portugal Version " This is like a Z432, because spring rate and stabilizer bars are the same. Not as sporty as Final Europe version but it has a little more sporty feelings than others. Kats

Thanks Alan, that is an important point. I should say "for S30, S20 engine was fading out" . Seems when people (even factory racers , mecanics) talking about racing car, they say "240Z" for L24 mounted (yes it is PZR body or could be others for private racer later ?) . They say "Z432R" for S20 mounted PZR. It is interesting to seeing registered name "Datsun sports 240Z " , and chassis ID "HS30" for 26th July 1970 Fuji 1000km in a car magazine, is this true for JAF official entry(registered) name/ ID ? Alan you are the only one can tell us.(sorry thousands times repeat!) My question is why Z432 was produced mostly in 1969 (approx 80) and 1970(approx 260). 1971 to 1973 , approximately 80. When Fairlady-240Z debuted in Japan late 1971 , there is no picture of Z432 in the brochure. Was that cause of Nissan switched to L24 in racing ? At that time Nissan sales-man was selling Z432R with asking price 800,000 yen( Z432 was 1,850,000 yen), what a bargain! Kats I see the radiator hose was handmade for the Z432 one, and the other one had modified top of the radiator for using L series radiator hose.

Thanks Fred ! Can I get 175 HP just using the triple carbs and the race exhaust? If so, what a great engine ! At Japanese race tracks, Z432R was fading out after Nissan works switched to L24. From 1971, most of results were made by 240Z. Kats

Thanks moelk ! Kats