Carl Beck

Yes it looks original - because the Mast is broken off... Might be a good motor there...

Thanks - Always good to hear that the information is useful to anyone. This was a good discussion related to 5 spd's in 70/71 240Z's. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?24759-5-speed-in-a-4-speed-question/page3 Read the entire discussion - but - Note Post 73 - by sblake01 - the starting position on the 77/78 shifter - looks a lot like the one the Competition Shifter started with... That is instead of the shift lever starting at the 12:00 position - it starts {is attached to begin with} more at the 1:00 position. Bend that one back just above its attachment point - then straighten it back up on the last bend - and it should be pretty close to what you need. Agreed - Eiji is a great person to work with. FWIW, Carl B.

What went wrong in the first place?

If my memory hasn't failed me... I recall just turning the Mustache Bar around, likewise you just turn the front diff. mount around. The rear transverse link 70/71 is straight - so you would need the 72 curved transverse link. {item 3 in the picture} If you are installing an R-200, then you need the 280Z mustache bar.. it is stronger and has larger holes for the larger studs in the R-200 rear cover. There is only one part number for the front diff. mount at this point - that covers 70-75 {and maybe beyond} But I can't recall of the 70/71 mount was actually any different. I always replaced them anyway with a new mount - any time I had to remove the old one. The type B transmission shifter is about 2.25 inches farther forward than the original type A. Nissan Comp. used to sell a shift kit that allowed you to use the type B in place of a type A - - it had an "S" curved shifter - it is NLA - but you can get an idea of how to build one. http://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/AandBtranny.htm FWIW, Carl B.

I don't see a Choke Lever in the picture... but if you do install the choke - I'd sure order one of these first - makes servicing the center console far easier - and gives a lot more support to the lever assembly. Datsun 240Z 1972/73 Choke Cable Lever Mounting Bracket http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-240Z-1972-73-Choke-Cable-Lever-Mounting-Bracket-/270931589375?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f14c7f8ff Art sends them out quckly as well.. FWIW, Carl B.

How about this one - {You could get rid of it once you buy another 240Z....It's OK to own a Porsche - as long as you park your 240Z in the Garage}

The brake master had the front brake resevoir {large one} at the front until Sept. 1971 - then chagned to having the front resevoir in the rear. So that is also as it should be. Over the years because of the retail price difference between the two parts - some people just rerouted the brake lines - so they could use the less expensive master on their cars. FWIW, Carl B.

Series I - Oct. 1969 into Jan. 1971. This model was sold/titled as 1969, 1970 & 1971 Datsun 240Z here in the US. Series II - Jan 1971 - Introduced by Nissan as the "Late Model Year 1971 Datsun 240Z. This model was only sold as a 1971 Model Year Datsun 240Z here in the US. {due to EPA and MVSS requirements for 71} Produced into 09/71. Hi Guy: As it should have. The Type B tranny and newer center console wasn't introduced until the 72 Model Year cars - Series III. As it should have - the rear end was moved 35mm rearward along with the Type B Transmission at the beginning of the 72 Model year. As it should be - the Series II stil had the Type A tranny - and the fresh air exhaust vents were moved from the deck lid to the quarter panels - - - because they were now the VENTS - they got what we call the Circle Z {which is vented} As it should be - the holes were put in the steering wheel to weaken it - so it would collapse with the foce necessary to pass the MVSS crash standards - for 1971. As it should be - the E31 was used from 69 though the Late 71 Model Year Z's. Series I and Series II. As it should be - that is a Series II "improvement". We saw 240Z's during the transition from Series I to Series II - that had both the rear deck lid vents and the quarter panel vents. We saw transition cars with both the rear deck mounted storage pockets and the plastic tool covers installed. But that was about it between Dec. 1970 and the end of Jan. 1971. Most defiantly a Series II. Should have been sold and Titled as a 1971 Datsun 240Z. The drive train was the same for Series I and Series II. Sound like the body is all Series II - as it has the quarter panel fresh air vents, the tool storage in the rear deck and the steering wheel with the previous indents stamped out - ie the holes. Most of the changes made to the Series I, Series II and Series III cars are listed here: http://zhome.com/History/DesignChanges.htm FWIW, Carl B.

The Wiki is wrong - Series I ended sometime in Jan 71

HI Chris: No - not this year - I think I'll just go and enjoy the show. BGM - that is a 1959 Pontiac. Good car to chop up!!

BELOW: A picture from Amelia - Race Cars 1963 to 1972 BELOW: One of my favorite pictures - a fellow 240Z Enthusiast {RIGHT} helping me re-polish the Mag.'s - after the car was put on the show field in a very early morning fog. The moisture in the air just flashes the polished Mag's to a dull silver. THANKS WILL!! BTW - we didn't see anyone pitching it to help the poor guy that brought that Ferrari... Z Car People are great! BELOW: Peter Brock and I spent some time on the Beach at Amelia Island - This is just one of my personal favorites... I was telling Mr. Brock to hold his stomach in - like this! We were laughing so hard a friend had to take the picture three times. The wind was blowing about 30 knots that day as well! BELOW: A picture from the Mirror Lake Concours d'Elegance, in Lakeland, Florida. Note the Group 44 cars down front. The TR-6 is the car that Paul Newman drove.

Hi Rich: Boy - there are so many branches to this discussion!! Strictly from my own experience - which has been limited: The reason you don't see Z Cars at most of these larger or more exclusive Concours Events - is because there are not more people like BobC, BobS, Rich, Alan and xs10shl who are both willing and able to take #1 / #2 Concours Quality Z's to the events. I don't belive it is because the event organizers don't want them or won't accept them. Most of these high end Concours Events are ran to raise funds for different worthy Charities. The organizers usually want to attract the largest possible crowds and the widest possible sponsorship. They do that by having the broadest range of interesting and beautiful cars on the field. I believe that as more Collectors finish up their Concours Quality Z Cars - you'll see them at more of these events. It has already been happening for the past 5 or more years. Also - as xs10shl I believe correctly pointed out - a lot depends on who the organizers are and what they are interested in. Over the years that group does change... and we will see more Z Car fans among them in the future. That could be hastened if more Z Car Guys would go volunteer at these events and become more involved in their planning etc. For example; One person is a Judge at both Pebble Beach and Amelia Island - he is also a Vintage Z owner. One person that is a key organizer at Ault Park is on our 240Z Original Owners Register. The main mover and shaker at Amelia is a former SCCA competitor and has always had a real interest in the SCCA C & D Production, as well as the Cam/Am cars, from the late 60's and early 70's - where the DATSUN's were key competitors. Because of the vast array of Classic Cars that show up at these events - it is simply impossible to have an "expert" there to judge every one of them on the basis of being pure stock or perfectly "original". Many of these cars represent 1 of only a handful that were produced or which still exist today. The only documentation, if any exists at all - is that complied by the guy that restored the car. So Judging at most of these events is nothing like Judging a Stock Class at a Marque Only event. Again as xs10shl pointed out - it's a beauty contest. {it is also many times a buddy contest}. For that reason - I usually enter my Z "for display" and enjoy the day. I also agree completely with everyone - you take your Z to these events to enjoy the company of fellow car nuts. Meet lots of nice people, get to see lots of simply splendid automobiles and hope that more people will think of the Z Cars in terms of Classic's - a thing of timeless beauty. One downside - is that many of these Events can be personally expensive to support - but you have to think of it as your contribution to the Charity involved. Come on you guys - how about some pictures at the events! FWIW, Carl B.

From the Festival of Speed - St. Petersburg, FL The 1966 Shelby built Ford Mustang, #12 of 16 notchbacks that won the Trans/Am tile for Ford in 1966 will be at this event. It has not been seen in 28 years, as this particular car was put away by its owner and has not been brought out in public since. The car was owned and driven by the National Trans/Am Champion John McComb. http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=trtu7ycab&v=001QhuZciaLI3UwQaILa7KQOF2igI15FmtVpfh-VO0sEZoxhxk8bzVm69wRrfjrSJfPtZP-He0uwbn1D0UeG7eEy_29H6i78MxHQ8VM-1JIyJN6GXaYmPNVuek8ZzxkCPDdofPxjX5b2SLA24ROUTU5kg%3D%3D

Na... with her body and moves she doesn't need to be nude...! {in public}.. :-) That is a very nicely proportioned young lady.. Think I'll watch that again... I like the music....

Thank you - Thank you Had to watch that one twice... ;-) Thought I recognized her from U Porn dot com - But then realized that they are all starting to look the same anyway...

Depends - if your "71" is a Series I example - the tools were mounted behind the seats, with plastic covers over them. In the Series I cars there were holes in the forward section of the rear deck area. These were usually covered with a tar mat. If your "71" is a Series II example - then the tool storage was in that forward section of the rear deck - with hinged lids covering them. That is why posting a picture of what you have would be helpful.. FWIW, Carl B

Royal purple is fine - I've ran it in a couple of Type B's - one 4 spd and one 5spd. Both were good transmissions with no shifting or synchro problems to begin with. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Bob: If your happy - I'm happy. I'll keep an eye out for the lemmon/lime 72. Keep in touch. Carl B.

HI Dave - beautiful job - you have to be very happy with the result. Thanks for sharing the story.. FWIW, Carl B.

Z Car Club of Rochester http://www.zccr.net/main/ Since New York is such a large State - you might be closer to a Z Club in another surrounding State. FWIW, Carl B.

Yes you can use it. I like the synthetics a little better. As long as any of them meet API GL-4 your good to go. FWIW, Carl B.

Looks like that is The End of that Porsche... real shame.

The L24 and L26 are the same basic engine - however the L26 has a longer stroke. Minus all original emissions considerations - if you equipped either of them with the same head - the larger engine should produce more torque/HP than the smaller one. I'd be looking for a shop close to home - to have an engine rebuilt. I'm sure there are plenty in New York - just talk to folks in the local clubs. If you have a 240Z with it's original engine - I'd have that one rebuilt and keep it with the car. I would expect to pay around $3000.00 to have either L24/L26 properly rebuilt - if I took the engine to the rebuilder and picked it up when done. With good machine work, new parts needed, seal kits etc - you would have around $1800.00 in parts and labor - not counting the disassembly and re-assembly and time spent locating all the needed parts. Turn around for that work, at a good shop should be 3 to 4 weeks. {takes time to get all the parts assembled, the head/block scheduled in the machine shop etc}. You really don't want to deal with a vendor that is out of state - unless they are one of the big names with outstanding reputations. Hard to sue someone in another state, or even recover any funds...just not worth it.

Of course some people just want something small and inexpensive - to put that $4.00 or $5.00 per gallon of gas in. Even 40 years old the Datsun's are reliable and simple to maintain.. plus they got great fuel mileage.. So it makes sense that the 510's, 1200's and B210's would be worth a bit more today. The prices on 240Z's were depressed over the past four years - and are simply catching up with the market again... FWIW, Carl B.

If I were going to do a V8 conversion - I'd look for the cleanest and least expensive 280Z body or rolling chassis I could find. They are stronger, had better corrosion protection than the earlier 240Z's - - and for good bodies they are usually far less expensive. They come with fuel tanks ready for FI as well. Of course the guys at HybridZ.org can offer a wealth of information when it comes to V8 swaps.. The other thing you really should start with is a large amount of money.. good luck Carl B.