Carl Beck

One of the 240Z's restored by Bill Reagan in Texas - he also did the Franklin Mint Z. 842 was last sold in April 2019 on BAT

I wonder if that Auction Site knows they got played? A Reserve above $105K - lol

$89K amazing and unbelievable - I looks beautiful - - HOWEVER, given the condition of the engine and engine compartment - there are enough Quality Points to deduct there alone - to knock it out of Category #1 or #2 Condition. This is most certainly NOT yet a Concours example. The Air Cleaner is correct for a Series II 1971. However none of the parts that should be bright shinny Yellow Chromated are “restored”. Brake lines, Fuel Lines, Carb. Linkages, Air Injection tubes, Fuel Rails, nuts/bolts etc. Many of the fuel/water rubber hoses are incorrect (old/worn). Non-stock/original exhaust system. Incorrect Splash Pan added Hood hinges should be body color Hood torsos bars should be black Horns are wrong color Seats are installed on the wrong side Dimond vinyl on the rear shock towers wrinkled/sloppy Metal Rivits on the Tail Light Finisher Panels? Beautiful 240Z, I’d love to have it… but market pricing realistically might be something closer to $65K - maybe a bit more with full photo. documentation of how the body work was done..

Since the mid 50's the "New" models for the Coming Calendar Year have been introduced a few months before 1 January of the coming year. In the mid to late 1950's "New Models" were put on display and open to the Public - at the local Authorized Dealership on Nov 1 of the current year. As competition got more serious, Manufacturers tried to bet the completion to the show room floor - so they started introducing new models Oct 1 - by the mid 60's new models were being introduced by Sept. 1. As I recall Ford introduced the New 1965 Mustang in April of 1964. Now the funny thing is NISSAN said they will introduce the New 2023 Z Car in the Spring of 2022. By the way - the VIN #47358 on that car is the Key - - The 1972 Model Year Datsun 240Z's started with VIN HLS30 46001.

It's a 1972 240Z...

Yes, a little weird. Still it is a 5spd installed in a 70/71 240Z. So the shift lever has most likely been modified so as not to hit the front of the center console. Cut and re-welded perhaps to lay back that way.

I guessed $24K-$28K - - SOLD For $21,211.00. Someone may have gotten a pretty good deal on that.

I think this one at $41K is about right for both the seller and buyer. Given the extensive refresh of the undercarriage and upgrades. A 240Z ready to drive and enjoy in a very presentable condition.. the new owner is unlikely to lose any money on this one in the future if its cared for.

My bad wording... should have said all the EPA, DOT and other Federal Regulations. Associating component parts of a motor vehicle with its VIN was, AIR a DOT regulation. It was intended to lower the number of stolen cars that were being taken for their parts to be resold. I'm sure it was pushed by the Insurance Companies and welcomed by the Police. At first GM stamped the actual chassis serial number of the vehicle on the engine blocks - that was were the term "matching numbers" originated back in the 60's. Car manufacturers started stamping the VIN on places on the frame and in some cases hidden in other places (with only Law Enforcement agencies given the location of the hidden VIN's) - so if the visible Dash VIN was changed.. the real VIN could be found in other places on the vehicle. I have no idea what changes in the laws took place in the later 70's...

@psdenno Kroil by KanoLabs It actually is a class above everything else I’ve used in 60 years. For the average car guy one 10 oz spray can will last several years. Granted it is a little pricey - but well worth spending the extra few dollars. I always used to order it direct from Kano Lab’s - but now I see they are working though sales outlets and distributors (and it has gotten more expensive as well) https://www.kroil.com/where-to-buy/

Given the stiff fines and prison time associated with Fraud and all the EPA Regulations in the automotive business even at the time - No Authorized New Car Dealer would ever mess with Federally Required numbers on a motor vehicle. I think the issue was addressed when the Seller Posted the block casting numbers. It would appear from the final sale price - matching vs non-matching numbers is about a $5K delta on a Driver quality 240Z today. It will be interesting to see what the Red 73 with L28 and other upgrades sells for tomorrow.

Actual Mileage is very important - if it isn’t completely overshadowed by Condition. in this case 15K original miles is almost meaningless as it relates the market value of the car. The condition of the car says 115K and I think he has a $24K to $28K example at the best. It is certainly a driver or a restorable example. The only thing I see that is really exceptional is the condition of the floorboards/frame rails.

Livermore, CA, Dealer asking $12k - 90K miles-no date recorded BringATrailer Arcadia, CA., 25Nov2019 No Sale Bid to $17K BringATrailer,Erie PA - George Lyons 14July 2021 FWIW Carl

That is usually "age" and choke cables that need lubrication and/or adjustment at the carb's. - easy to put too much force pulling in the handle.

That is as good as any it seem - There are Survivors at $50,000.00 to $310,000.00 then there are survivors at $20,000.00 today.

There is also a difference between 72 and 73 - related to how far the choke lever is inserted into the handle. Both will slide onto the metal lever - but only the correct handle will line up with the screw hole in the lever. @VaCat33 can’t tell from the picture you Posted - where did your handle break? Did the metal lever tear out the back of the handle? That seems to be what happens when the set screw is missing. If the handle snapped the top off the base - that’s a different problem.

Just get another set of rails for/from a driver side seat - and put them on the passenger seat. Yes the adjustment lever will be in the "wrong" place, but then who cares - your are not building a stock set up anyway. I changed my passenger seat slides, to driver slides for two reasons. My son is 6'3 and I needed to get him farther back so he wasn't blocking my view out the right side window, in addition to giving him more leg room. The right side slides were never a problem with the wife, daughter or girlfriends as passengers, nor when the boys were younger smaller. So I think for most people the difference wasn't usually noticed. I do however appreciate your effort to figure out and document how the rearward travel of the passenger seat was mechanically limited. FWIW Carl B.

I don’t know about “here” - but at most Judged Concours events I’ve attended that had a Survivor Class - a “Survivor”; has to met a list of criteria. In general they have to be at least 40 to50 years old, they have to have at least 90% of the paint applied at the factory, they had to have 90%+ of their original factory installed parts. As importantly they have to present as a well cared for example of what they looked like when new. A few dings, scratches or stone chips are expected, signs of normal use are expected. Of course they are judged based on over-all condition. The 260Z in question certainly would not be considered a Survivor - as it was a complete repaint right off the bat.

Possibly one of the Best-Buy's of the year. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-datsun-260z-43/

30 years ago - it was a $3,500.00 example. You have to wonder how much the Dealer paid for it, before he flipped it.

A large number of people pulled the V12 out of their XJ-S - after it caught fire and burned. That is what happened to mine - the next owner swapped in a SBC using the "Jag'sThatRun" kit. He also replaced all the dash gauges & wiring ..

This was one of the best kept, most original “Survivors” we have seen on BAT in a long time. Darn shame it was presented with the damage to the rear quarter panel and tail light surround. A Survivor in that shape (without the damage) would easily have brought $40K to $45K in the last six months - - but that dent in the rear, is in a very hard place to fix - and it was a big Put-Off to most collectors. I think the seller made a costly mistake presenting it for Auction - without first fixing that damage. On the other hand the Buyer got a really great 240Z at a bargain price. Another great Survivor - 1973 on Auction now - we’ll see how it does.

1978 280Z - SOLD $39,000.00 I think its been a long time since I've seen a stock 280Z bring those numbers. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-datsun-280z-95/

Winki says "By 1986, Nissan had phased out the Datsun name" - from memory, I think that is about correct.. it took several years to update all the Dealer Signs, brochures, letter heads etc. - which added to the "Brand" confusion.

The 280ZX was introduced as a DATSUN 280ZX, by 1980 the badging was still DATSUN 280ZX, but with an added note "By Nissan"