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These will be used to fix our 1970 240z (pic above) when the time comes.... I agree that this section offers an interesting view. I think the metal at the top of the inner wheelhouse is part of the base of the rear strut tower. It looks like they cut straight through about 4 inches into the inner wheel house. Another interesting view is the cut right down the middle of the seat belt retractor section down by the dogleg.
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Truth! It was just a young guy and he only wanted “interesting trades” instead of cash. I pitched everything I could think of. SeaDoo got me on the list ?
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Agreed - I am very thankful. I was hesitant to spend the cash but my buddy Tom called me and said “...check these out...you need these to fix the 70, and you are crazy if you don’t buy em...you just don’t see them ...”
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Sweet deals on both!
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True ... and here is the problem child ...70, vin 05677 ...traded it for the families old SeaDoo last year ... Interestingly, when that “repair” was done, new panels were still available for a few hundred dollars ....
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Definitely - 56 cents is at the low end of prices where I see them on sale. Definitely worth it.
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I figure there must already be a thread like this somewhere. But if not, let’s bring it back ...you know the rules so let’s get to it ... So I picked up these beauties today ...(actually Matt from Edmonton drove three hours and dropped them off for me. Thanks again Matt if you are on here ....) Solid rear quarters cut from a 72 240z, 90550 (RIP) Right side .... Left side .... (bonus: window, door latch, side marker, hatch strut, antenna and speaker ?)... Some small rust rust in the lower dogleg and around the gas cap but basically pretty solid .... I paid $1500 Cdn, or about $1150 US, delivered to my front door. And so now the question: “Deal” or “No Deal” ???
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That’s a fair-er comparison and 56 cents FTW!
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$2.88 each - yikes! kmstools.ca has the 3/16 and 3/32 on sale for $0.99 Cdn right now... https://www.kmstools.com/cleco-3-16-temporary-sheet-metal-fastener-82
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So the pliers will run around $20 and the 1/8 Clecos will cost $0.50 to $0.75 cents each. I have around 50 or 60 and the only time I got close to using them all was when I was doing floors. kmstools and Amazon.ca have them on sale fairly regularly. Clecos were originally developed for aircraft (which are made of aluminum and riveted together). A pilot friend of mine put me on to them. There are many advantages over screws. 1) no deformation of the metal (other than drilling the initial hole) 2) spring loaded - infinitely re-usable 3) perfect for the fitting process where parts are going to be attached / detached several times before final welding. (for example the frame rails were probably on / off a dozen times before I welded them in).
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Good call on the Wheels!
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Not much today. Managed to get the upper inner bracing made and everything fitted and Cleco’d in. Hopefully punching holes tomorrow ....
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Made a bit of progress on the rad support ... templating .... Laying out the template and the bead roll pattern .... Got most of the hard part done.... Should be able to wrap it up in the next few days ....
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Looks great!
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Had kind of a lazy afternoon testfitting sheet metal before welding in the rockers .... not perfect but workable .... Nice parallel lines ... Inner fender repair fits decent .... Funny how no two sugar scoops are identical ....
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On the other hand, we also tend to beef up suspension and drivetrain, plus the power levels, so strength of structure is still an important discussion ...
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All true @Patcon
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That pic is a good argument for 305 IMO (minus the fingers ???)
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Agreed. That backing plate is the least discussed and most important piece. Given that I am (slightly LOL) over 200 lbs, I will likely overbuild that plate and tie it back to the corner.
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I just puked a little in my mouth ....
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305 IMO
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I agree with all three of your points, although I would reverse the order of priority as follows: 1) cost: single stamp is always cheaper - agreed 2) manufacturing (really cost point 2): spot weld through multiple layers without adjusting position is cheaper - agreed 3) structural; meh. ( Understand that the top and bottom edges of mine are in exactly the same point as factory and the top edge of the curved section is about 1 inch inboard. But even if I concede that) the factory design was better on day 1 ....On day 1200, it’s a rust trap and arguably much worse. But at day 1200 who cares ? (...well off warranty) . So ... See 1 and 2 above ??? That said, I do like how the factory design tranfers the seat belt load to the corner ....
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Occupation: retired engineer ... Good points and it would be easy to replicate but I’m not too worried about it. The rocker also has a internal brace with a heavy bead to box it and add strength. (I haven’t made it yet). The main reason I did it is that all the layered metal in that corner is a brutal rust trap. It was an almost indistinguishable lump when I first cut into it.
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Agreed and I don’t know the answer. But I can’t see it being stronger than maintaining the section.
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