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1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Thanks. I've dug through everything and it looks like I am good to go with this voltmeter. *** I've started working on adapting my Vintage Air Gen II Mini air conditioner to the dash harnesses. One thing I just noticed today is they have two wires coming into it from the car: one from the battery (30 amps) and one from the ignition (5 amps). Both of these go to a relay that goes to the fan switch and a second relay that feeds the blower on the evaporator. https://www.vintageair.com/instructions_pdf/MINI GEN II HCD WIRING DIAGRAM.pdf I am wondering if I need this relay because I have the power coming off the accessory relay, which is on the ignition switch already. In theory I could just remove the relay Vintage Air has in their wiring and connect it into the power that used to feed the heater blower. It just feels like an extra relay that isn't needed. Or am I missing something and I need a separate wire from the ignition that isn't going through the accessory relay? Thoughts? -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
I've been working on some detail illustrations for the individual component modifications that I am making to these harnesses. First up are the ignition and the volt meter. I have been able to find good documentation, including diagrams of the wiring, of how these two modifications are supposed to be done, so I was able to consolidate all of that and add some details based on the work I have been doing in the harness diagrams. 240z e12-80 Ignition & Distributor Wiring Modification: This ignition setup is pretty straight forward and has been documented repeatedly in several places, but I have found some details about how the 280zx distributor is set up in its factory setup in a 1979 ZX, specifically the condenser. There are tons of components that tie into the wires that connect to the ignition that simply don't exist in the 1970-78 cars. I am guessing (since people have been able to make this setup work in Z cars) this doesn't impact anything, but it does make me take a pause when I am trying to be thorough and have a clean harness when I am finished. I plan to dig into this a little deeper, but I have reassurance from a couple people in this thread and my main build thread that this setup works without requiring any other mods, such as the 280z tachometer swap and/or adding a 2.2k ohm resistor or a MSA HI-6 box. 240z Volt Meter Wiring Modification: The volt meter I have is from a 1976 280z. I chose this one because the face is closest to the 1973 ammeter as far as the typography and graphics are concerned. It's not a match, but it's close enough that it looks like it could have been in the car original. The 1977-8 volt meter has completely different lettering and looks like a mistake. I'm relying heavily on the information @tamo3 and @EuroDat posted in this thread where @tamo3 showed how he modified a 1977 voltmeter to fit into a 1975 280z. It's pretty clear, but I am planning to modify it further because the 1973 combination switch doesn't connect to the ammeter like it does in the 1975. The only hesitation I have on how I have drawn this up is the illumination light. In the 240z you have a single wire light that grounds to the instrument case. in the 280z you have the 2-wire lights that connect directly the common ground throughout the wiring. I am pretty sure but not 100% sure this will still work because the case is grounded via the black wire on the 4-pin connector that goes to the fuel pump. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Thanks! I was just looking at that. I also found one for a Nissan Juke I am considering. The overlanding / off-roading community seems that have a bunch of stuff in this space. Must be for all those light bars. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Made a little bit of progress yesterday on my electric fan set up. The main "Ah ha!" moment that I had one I can simplify things by adding an auxiliary fuse box. I know adding an additional component sound like making this more complex, not simpler, but what I realized is that all of my new components in the engine bay could be fed off that Aux fuse box. The only two things I am adding up front are the air conditioning system and the electric radiator fans, which means the wiring from the engine harness to that fuse box can be pretty simple. Components for the electric radiator fan are: 1 x Fan thermostat switch (I am looking into using the two-wire 280ZX switch at the water neck for this) 2 x Fan Relay 2 x Circuit Breaker 2 x Electric Fan Components under the hood for the air conditioning are: Air Compressor AC Trinary Switch (automatically shuts off the air-conditioning clutch if the refrigerant pressure gets too high / low) A/C Compressor Low Idle Control Idle Adjustment Solenoid The thing I am trying to figure out now is if the AC components should be wired to the Accessory position on the key, or if they can be on the On position. The fans will be on the On position. It's not a big deal either way, but I want to talk to Vintage Air about it tomorrow to see what they say about it. The evaporator and thermostat switch in the dash are both already on the Accessory position. Now to find a fuse box. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
The ZX had two as well, even though it didn't have points; one on the alternator and an RF interference condenser on the distributor. It didn't connect to the coil but it did connect to the ignition switch. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Thanks. I will read up on them. As I am working in integrating my ZX distributor into my wiring, I noticed quite a few threads here and over at Hybridz where people say you can live without the condenser that is NLA for those cars. This was the 2-wire condenser that plugged into a wire coming out of the distributor on one end and spliced into the BW wire going to the electronic ignition on the other. I'm also noticing that in the ZX the condenser joins up to wires going to the fuel pump and the ignition switch, whereas the 240z has the condenser on a wire that goes to the seat switches, fuse box, hazard switch and some gauges. Curious if anyone has any thoughts on this. Right now I am leaning toward keeping the 240z setup for that specific component. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Fun story: I have been looking at the diagram of how to wire up a 280ZX distributor and couldn't for the life of me figure out why my BW wires didn't match the diagram. I chased the wires in my harnesses from the coil to the ignition and the tach and back again about six times, drew up how my wires are routed vs the FSM, and was about freak out before I realized that the wires for the ballast resistor and the coil have the same plugs and I just had them labeled wrong. I swapped the labels on my harness and now everything makes sense. Derp. Are you going to run the original alternator (or one from a 280zx)? Mine is the GM-style. Part of me wishes I had gone with a newer Nissan alternator instead, but I bought it back when I first bought the car and wasn't really thinking about this stuff then. I'm going to take a look at how your configuration would look in my situation, but relays are a subject I need to read up on before I can confidently mess with them. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
So the ignition controls the relay and that relay sends the constant voltage to the Alternator, or do you mean having a constant voltage source separate from the relay? What I am reading says not to have a constant voltage source to the L terminal that is not controlled by the switch. I think maybe you mean having the relay controlled by the switch, but I want to make sure we are saying the same thing. Ah, right. Good point. The more I work on this the less convinced I am that I should change the dash lights to LEDs, but that one would be outside of the rheostat circuit so maybe it doesn't impact that choice. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
I've been working on getting the correct wiring for my internally regulated 100-amp alternator into the diagram and have run into some interesting things while digging around. I think I have it pretty close, but I'm interested to see if anyone has any comments or alternative suggestions. The reference material I have been looking at is mostly @bvolken's article on installing a 280ZX alternator, a general guide to installing 100-amp alternators in Z cars from the Edmonton Z Car Club, and random stuff about correctly wiring the GM alternator into other cars. So, when looking at the wiring for the OEM alternator, this is what we start with: I could just take all that out and go with a single wire setup, but I am opting for using the excite and sense wires for reasons outlined in the Edmonton article already mentioned. So based on what I have learned about this system so far, this is what I have: A few things to note… 1. The combination of the voltage regulator and Fuel Pump Harness A (24032-N3300) created what amounted to a splice between the white wire coming off the engine harness and the yellow wire going to the fuel pump relay. I am preserving that here with a splice wrapped in light green tape. This will also supply a "Sense" wire for the alternator (terminal 2). I have read that it is better to have the "sense" wire come from something closer to the circuits for the accessories than directly from the battery, so I think repurposing / updating @bvolken's alternator wire rewire option gets me there. However, I am running my excite wire off the wire from the coil because it goes directly to the "on" position on the ignition, rather than using the BW/WB wires that originally went to the voltage regulator. Here's an example of the direct wiring approach for reference: 2. I have retained the orange splice on the black wire with a white stripe that goes to the coil positive post from the "ON" position on the ignition switch, but now that wire is going to the "Lamp" or "Excite" wire for the alternator (terminal 1). 3. I have a 3-amp diode in the diagram, but I am uncertain about this addition. I will also be swapping my Ammeter out for a Voltmeter from a 260z, and those have the small red "Charge" light which sort of functions in a similar way by providing resistance until the alternator comes up to full speed. @SteveJ, I am curious about your opinion on this. Does having the diode AND the light create too much resistance, or can I get away with both? Otherwise this isn't substantially different from the original circuits. You may have also noticed that I have deleted the seatbelt relay and the throttle opener relay. I think I have this done correctly but need to triple check it. I might be adding a 120-amp circuit breaker on the red cable coming off the battery for extra extra extra protection, but I will definitely be replacing the fusible link on the starter with a resettable circuit breaker. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Okay, I need to move on to the next step and stop swirling on this diagram. Here it is in all of it's glory. I am pretty sure it is correct throughout but if anyone sees any errors, please let me know. It should be much more helpful for anyone with a 1973 than the ones previously posted since it is comprehensive and verified. 1973-240Z-Wiring-Diagram-Draft.pdf So the next step is to make the changes that I intend to have in the car. Here's the list: 1. Convert to 280ZX distributor & E12-80 Ignition * Delete Ballast Resistor * Add ZX RF Resistor * Investigate and Update Condensers * Mimic 1979 280ZX wiring * Investigate 240z vs 280z tach issues more thoroughly 2. Change Alternator to Single Wire * Delete Voltage Regulator * Maintain Fuel Pump Wiring 3. Replace Heater Blower with AC * Delete Heater Blower Harness * Maintain Illumination for Controls * Add necessary AC Components * Add Wide Open Throttle Switch * Add Fan Temp Switch * Add Electric Fan Relay * Add Electric Fan * Add AC Thermostat Switch (mimic 1979 280ZX wiring) * Add AC Trinary Switch * Air Compressor * Add Air Conditioning Evaporator * Replace Throttle Opener with Fast Idle Control Device * Delete Throttle Opener Relay (refer to 1972 Wiring) * Remove Throttle Opener Solenoid * Investigate FICD Wiring 4. Replace Ammeter with Volt Meter 5. Change to Euro brake / signal configuration * Replace 240z turn signal switch with 260z turn signal switch * Update wiring at Combination Lights * Add 3rd Brake Light 6. Replace Cigar Lighter with 12-volt socket 7. Update Dashboard to LEDs * Investigate Dimmable LED bulbs * Investigate LED Dimmer to replace Rheostat 8. Consider Replacing Radio Wiring with Bluetooth Controls and Charging feeds * Investigate Bluetooth Controls * Investigate GPS Units * Investigate Backup Cameras 9. Add USB-C Wiring for charging 10. Determine if I need, and then find, new relays -
1973 240z Automatic to Manual Questions
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Electrical
Aha! Wonderfull. Thanks @SteveJ. The 4-pin connector goes to the Throttle Opener Relay. That explains why I couldn't figure it out. It also means that I am SOL since you can't get them anymore. It also means that I am 100% going to delete that from my system and go with a Fast Idle Control Device to prevent the engine from being bogged down when I turn on the AC. I know they serve different purposes, but that's my plan. Regardless, the way I have it drawn up is definitely wrong. I'm pretty sure the BY wire goes to the opener solenoid and is not the one coming from the green connector. I would like to update the diagram I have been making to cover this stuff so that I can make it available for everyone if they want it. I will send you a draft. Maybe you can fill in the blanks on that one bit. --- Regarding the GB wire changing color to YR, I have identified that change as happening at the colored connectors on my harnesses. I have a YR wire that goes all the way from the speed switch on the back of the speedometer to the green connector on the dashboard harness without interruption. That pin corresponds to the GB wire on the green connector of the manual engine harness. This is backed up by the illustration 15-B on page BE-2 and illustration 8-B on page BE-3 in the 1973 FSM, which doesn't confirm that I'm correct but does point that way. --- The last little detail is the black wire on the green connector that I asked about earlier. There are two black wires on that connector and the one I can't figure out is the thinner one. Right now I have it as going to the accessory wire on the negative cable coming off the battery, but I am not confident about that at all. -
1973 240z Automatic to Manual Questions
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Electrical
@SteveJ I have a theory: I am guessing that the two G wires that go into the 6-pin connector on an automatic are the ones that go to the neutral safety switch on a manual. I am also guessing that the BY wire coming off the orange splice is one of the two BW wires on your manual that goes to the 4-pin connector. On my harness that BY wire splices to wires terminating at the coil positive, the fuse box, the front electric fuel pump, The ignition switch, and the throttle opener switch. I believe the GB wire comes off the green connector and ends up in that 4-pin connector somehow (either directly or via a splice). If all of this is correct, then this should be right: It would look like this in my diagram: We just need to figure out whats up with those BW wires. -
1973 240z Automatic to Manual Questions
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Electrical
Yeah, the connector I am looking for information on is the one on the Engine harness labeled 18 in the FSM. It should be in the same position on the manual harness as the Seatbelt relay on the Automatic harness, based on what is in the FSM illustration. I need to know what it connects to and where the two BW wires are coming from. If possible, I would love to know whether any of the four wires in that connector are spliced to something else, but I understand that is a long shot request. -
1973 240z Automatic to Manual Questions
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Electrical
Thanks, but the full diagram from Eurodat is what I started with. These specific things aren't covered in it. Here is a drawing showing how the wires in my harness are routed from the green connector to the seatbelt switch: Notice that I have two BY wires going to my neutral switch, not green, and they come out of the seatbelt switch, not the green connector. If I understand you correctly, on the manual cars the green wires bypass the 4-pin connector and go straight to the neutral safety switch. Now that I think about it, the inhibitor switch on automatic cars replaces the neutral safety switch, so I have a flaw in my diagram for that. @SteveJ what does the 4-pin connector plug into since there’s no seatbelt relay? I am assuming the green connector's BY wire and GB wire (marked as missing in the drawing above) go to that 4-pin connector. If the BW wires merge somewhere into one wire I have no idea where that BW wire would come from. --- And it sounds like that BY wire on the blue connector I was asking about just isn’t really there since neither of us have it on our harnesses. -
I have been working on creating a comprehensive diagrams so I can rebuild all of my wiring and I could really use some help with the last couple of details. Context: The previous owner sold me the car largely disassembled so I have had to chase all of the wires and connectors and figure out what they go to. In the process of doing that I discovered that my engine harness is for an automatic, but I have a manual car. There are also a couple of wires that were snipped. The first thing I need to understand is what one of the cut wires is for. It's a thin black wire (approximately 14 or 16 AWG) and comes out of the main trunk of the harness near the Seatbelt Relay connector. I traced it to the top left pin in the green connector (15B on page BE-2 of the FSM), which corresponds to a wire that is missing on my dashboard harness. This makes me think these wires are dedicated to the automatic cars. The next thing I need to understand is how the manual harness is different from the automatic harness for this year. I already figured out how the throttle opener solenoid wires are different, but I could use help with understanding the wires that go to the 4-pin connector that replaces the 6-pin connector for the seatbelt relay. The 6-pin connector wires are BY, BY, BY, B, G, G (#17 on page BE-2 in the FSM) and the wires for the 4-pin connector are GB, BW, BW, BY (#18 on page BE-2 of the FSM). I am pretty sure the GB wire on the manual is for the throttle opener solenoid and connects to the speed switch on the speedometer. I assume the BY wire on the manual replaces the third BY on the automatic. I have no idea about the others. I would have assumed there was a green on in there but no. The last thing I need to figure out is what the BY wire on the blue connector goes to. It's the center pin on the bottom (#15-A on page BE-2 of the FSM). This is completely missing on my engine harness, but also on my dashboard harness, which leads me to believe it is specific to manual cars, just like the GB wite for the throttle opener. I would really appreciate help ironing these details out. It's the final roadblock on getting my wiring diagram done so I can start rebuilding it. Let me know if are details I should add that would help.
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1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
1973 240z Climate Control Face Harness (24026 N3300) Inventory Position Component Connector Color Connector Style Direction # of Pins # of Wires Sample Wire Color Min. Feet of Wire Needed Wire Gauge 1 Heater Fan Blower Switch Harness White Nylon Male 3 2 Black [See Ground] 14 AWG – – – Red w/ Blue [See Red Splice A] 14 AWG 2 Red Splice A N/A N/A N/A 4 Red w/ Blue 1 (from Heater Fan Blower Switch Harness) 14 AWG Red w/ Blue [See Climate Control Light A] 14 AWG Red w/ Blue [See Climate Control Light B] 14 AWG Red w/ Blue [See Fan Switch Light] 14 AWG 3 Climate Control Light A Black Bulb N/A 1 1 Red w/ Blue 1 (from Red Splice A) 14 AWG 4 Climate Control Light B Black Bulb N/A 1 1 Red w/ Blue 1 (from Red Splice A) 14 AWG 5 Ground Black Fork N/A 1 1 Black 1 (from Heater Fan Blower Switch Harness) 14 AWG 6 Fan Switch Light Black Bulb N/A 1 1 Red w/ Blue 2 (from Red Splice A) 14 AWG -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
1973 240z Heater Fan Blower Switch Harness (27155-E4400) Inventory Position Component Connector Color Connector Style Direction # of Pins # of Wires Sample Wire Color Min. Feet of Wire Needed Wire Gauge 1 Blower Switch White Nylon Male 6 6 Black [See Yellow Splice A] 12 AWG Red [See Blue Splice A] 12 AWG Blue w/ White [See Climate Control Face Harness] 14 AWG White [See Blower Motor Resistors] 12 AWG Green [See Blower Motor Resistors] 12 AWG Yellow [See Blower Motor Resistors] 12 AWG 2 Blue Splice A N/A N/A N/A 4 Red 1 (from Blower Switch) 12 AWG Red [See Blower Motor Resistors] 14 AWG Red [See Climate Control Face Harness] 14 AWG Red [See Blower Power In] 12 AWG 3 Yellow Splice A N/A N/A N/A 2 Black 1 (from Blower Switch) 12 AWG Black [See Ground] 12 AWG Black [See Blower Motor Resistors] 12 AWG 4 Ground Black Fork N/A 1 1 Black 1 (from Yellow Splice A) 12 AWG 5 A/C Power Clear Bullet Female 1 1 Blue [See Blower Motor Resistors] 14 AWG 6 Blower Power In Clear Bullet Male 1 1 Red 2 (from Blue Splice A) 12 AWG 7 Climate Control Face Harness White Nylon Female 3 2 Red 2 (from Blue Splice A) 14 AWG – – – Blue w/ White 2 (from Blower Switch) 14 AWG 8 Blower Motor Resistors White Nylon Female 6 6 White 2 (from Blower Switch) 12 AWG Red 2 (from Blue Splice A) 14 AWG Black 2 (from Yellow Splice A) 12 AWG Green 2 (from Blower Switch) 12 AWG Yellow 2 (from Blower Switch) 12 AWG Blue 1 (from A/C Power) 14 AWG -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
I have pulled everything out. It's on a table in my office. That photo was from another thread. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
This whole exercise has been a series of forehead slapping moments. Today was another one, where I realized that the bullet connectors making a junction on the fuel sending unit harness are there for connecting a fuel pump, which explains why there is no connector for said fuel pump. Mine doesn't have this, but there should be blue tape holding them down, which we all know by now is the giant beacon Nissan supplied for all optional components: (Image Source) I went round and round on this, but then I realized that the blue tape meant "optional" so the corroded bullet connectors in my post from yesterday had to be the way they meant for us to connect an electric fuel pump. Anyway, here's the table for it: 1973 240z Electric Fuel Pump & Fuel Sender Unit Harness (24815-E8200) Inventory Position Component Connector Color Connector Style Direction # of Pins # of Wires Sample Wire Color Min. Feet of Wire Needed Wire Gauge 1 Body Harness A White Nylon Male 2 2 Black [See Yellow Splice A] 14 AWG Yellow [See Sending Unit] 14 AWG 2 Body Harness B White Nylon Male 1 1 Green [See Fuel Pump] 12 AWG 3 Chassis Ground Black Ring N/A 1 1 Black [See Yellow Splice A] 12 AWG 4 Yellow Splice A N/A N/A N/A 3 1 (from Body Harness A) 14 AWG 1 (from Chassis Ground) 12 AWG [See Yellow Splice B] 12 AWG 4 Yellow Splice B N/A N/A N/A 3 2 (from Yellow Splice A) 12 AWG [See Fuel Pump] 12 AWG [See Sending Unit] 14 AWG 6 Fuel Pump Clear Bullet Male 1 1 Black 1 (from Yellow Splice B) 12 AWG Clear Bullet Female 1 1 Green 3 (from Body Harness B ) 12 AWG 7 Sending Unit Black Ring N/A 1 1 Yellow 3 (from Body Harness A) 12 AWG Black Ring N/A 1 1 Black 1 (from Yellow Splice B) 14 AWG -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Thanks for the additional details! Here are a couple more tables… 1973 240z Fuel Pump Harness A (24032-N3300) Inventory Position Component Connector Color Connector Style Direction # of Pins # of Wires Sample Wire Color Min. Feet of Wire Needed Wire Gauge 1 Engine Harness White Nylon Male 6 5 Yellow [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG Yellow [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG – [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG Black w/ White [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG Yellow w/ Black [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG Black [See Voltage Regulator] 14 AWG 2 Voltage Regulator White Nylon Female 6 5 Black 1 (from Engine Harness) 14 AWG Yellow w/ Black 1 (from Engine Harness) 14 AWG Black w/ White 1 (from Engine Harness) 14 AWG – – – Yellow 1 (from Engine Harness) 14 AWG Yellow 1 (from Engine Harness) 14 AWG [See Fuel Pump Junction B] 14 AWG 3 Fuel Pump Clear Spade Female 1 1 Black w/ Yellow [See Fuel Pump Junction A] 14 AWG 4 Fuel Pump Junction A Clear Spade Female 1 1 Black w/ Yellow 4 (from Voltage Regulator) 14 AWG 5 Fuel Pump Junction B Clear Bullet Female 1 1 Yellow 3 (from Fuel Pump) 14 AWG 1973 240z Fuel Pump Harness B (24034-N3300) Inventory Position Component Connector Color Connector Style Direction # of Pins # of Wires Sample Wire Color Min. Feet of Wire Needed Wire Gauge 1 Dashboard Harness White Nylon Male 2 2 Green [See Fuel Pump Relay] 12 AWG Black w/ White [See Fuse Loop] 12 AWG 2 Fuse Loop White Nylon Female 2 2 Green [See Heater / Choke Relay] 12 AWG Black w/ White 1 (from Dashboard Harness) 12 AWG 3 Fuel Harness B White Nylon Male 2 2 Green [See 20 Amp Fuse] 12 AWG Black w/ White [See 20 Amp Fuse] 12 AWG 4 20 Amp Fuse White Nylon N/A 2 2 Green 1 (from Fuel Harness B) 12 AWG Black w/ White 1 (from Fuel Harness B) 12 AWG 5 Fuel Pump Relay White Nylon Female 6 5 – – – – – – Black w/ White [See Fuel Pump Junction A] 12 AWG Green [See Heater / Choke Relay] 12 AWG Green 5 (from Dashboard Harness) 12 AWG Black [See Heater / Choke Relay] 14 AWG [See Ground] 14 AWG 6 Ground Black Ring N/A 1 1 Black 1 (from Fuel Pump Relay) 7 Heater / Choke Relay 4 4 Green 5 (from Fuse Loop) 12 AWG Yellow [See Fuel Pump Junction B] 12 AWG Black 1 (from Fuel Pump Relay) 14 AWG Green 1 (from Fuel Pump Relay) 12 AWG 8 Fuel Pump Junction A Clear Spade Male 1 1 Black w/ White 2 (from Fuel Pump Relay) 12 AWG 9 Fuel Pump Junction B Clear Bullet Male 1 1 Yellow 2 (from Heater / Choke Relay) 12 AWG -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Thanks! I’m going to delete the points and move to electronic ignition, but good to know about the others. In a quick google search I’m seeing a coil condenser and a voltage regulator condenser. Are these the other two, or is the coil condenser the same as the distributor condenser? I’m also seeing one for automatic transmissions. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Someone asked me why I’m making all new harnesses from scratch rather than rebuilding what I have, and I think these photos answer that question. I have problems like these throughout all of my wiring across the entire car: -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
I unearthed another box of wiring harnesses I had buried in my basement which has shed light on some things above, specifically the Fuel Pump Relay and how that fits into the rest of things. This thread started by @conedodger prompted me to look for the harnesses that were added in late 1973 shown in the illustration below supplied by @Carl Beck: So here's what I found: Clockwise from far right, they are… Fuel Pump Harness A (PN 24032-N3300) Electric Fuel Pump & Fuel Sender Unit Harness (PN 24815 E8200) Fuel Pump Harness B (PN 24034 N3300) Fan Blower Switch Harness (PN 27155 E4400) Climate Control Face Harness (PN 24026 N3300) So it looks like the one thing I am missing is Relay A (PN 25235 P0100) from the illustration @Carl Beck provided, which I have seen labeled as a heater relay or an Auto Choke Relay, but seems NLA like all the others. Should be fun trying to scrounge this, but first I need to add these 5 harnesses to my diagram and spreadsheets. -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
I'm almost certain the G and B wires are for the Thermostat Relay. The FSM indicates there should be 2 B wires and an RB wire as well, which come off the distributor and the distributor relay. I am missing that connector in my AT harness, so that has to be it. Here it is illustrated on page BE-2 of the FSM: -
1973 240z Custom Wiring From Scratch
Matthew Abate replied to Matthew Abate's topic in Build Threads
Next to last step (other than identifying those damned cut wires) is to map the relays to the harnesses, so I went through my pile o' parts and this is what I have: Voltage Regulator #1 - Elecman HBA12-2 by F.D. Japan, 6 wires (Y, W, WR, BW, WB, and Voltage Regulator #2 - Product HBA12-2 by F.D. Japan, 6 wires (Y, W, WR, BW, WB, and Electric Fuel Pump Relay - HR1-14 12v 706 (PN 25235 P0101) by Hitachi Ballast Resistor - RC-15 by Hanshin Two different distributor condensers - The longer one is a NC-47CT-A2 150v 47m capacitor by NCC. The other is illegible. The front of my relay bundle - Clockwise from bottom: Windshield Wiper Relay by Jideco (PN 28820-N3300) 3-pin 12v 15A Horn Relay by Miyanmoto Japan 4-pin Defroster Relay 6-pin Fuel Pump Relay by Jideco (PN 25230 89915) 3-pin MR2-101 Accessory Relay by Jideco (PN 25230 39914) The rear of my relay bundle has a HF546A 12v Heavy Duty Flasher Relay by Niles And another 6 pin relay with no markings by Jideco. Could be a Choke or Headlight Relay, or another Fuel Pump Relay as above.