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Sorry, with the new info, locked motor, it would not be a case of bringing a trailer and stopping by on the way home. That's what happens when enthusiasm and assumption meet and bar good sense from entering! I wouldn't haul a car anywhere unless I got a great buy on it, or it needed nothing. Will

All of these assume that there is plentiful refreshment, and relief available, in the form of snacks, seating, and well maintained restrooms! Will

As a judge I enjoy a car show when there is ample time to do the judging. I like to look at the cars twice, once as a whole, to see the range of the field, and once individually, to find the devil in the details. I write down what I took points for and why. I feel that as a judge I am supposed to share the info that cost an entrant points so the car can be better for next year. Talking to the entrants at the show is a double edged sword, some know how to question and learn/educate. Others will offer no proof of their points and expect to bully a point back by determination. Talking to an owner about a point reduction can be a terrific or a terrible experience, but more often memorable than not leads to a "No good deed goes unpunished" experience. Will

When Entered in a show, I enjoy two things more than anything else. First the opportunity to go around and see all of the cars and meet the other entrants before the show actually starts. I like to have my car ready, and to go, look, look, and see before the show opens to be able to talk to the owners and see the cars before the spectators get there-it is usually the only chance an entrant gets to see everything and everyone, and if done early, the best photos will be right before the show. One note there, the owners should be identified with a picture of their entrant on their name tag/badge that way as you wander you can actually find the roaming owner of the cars you are really interested in finding out about. Second hanging out by my car and sharing info, stories, parts sources. It is nice to be singled out for the job you did by an experienced judge-or group thereof, but I would rather have a conversation about the car than a prize, everyone who stops to talk about your car is giving you something better than a $30 mantle cover-though there is nothing wrong whit being awarded one. I won't dispute points-unless I have proof, but I would rather get their reaction to what I did with my car-though ultimately I built it to my standards. Will

I have never been to a car show I didn't enjoy. Granted some have been more fun than others. The least enjoyable one I have gone to was in Charleston a year or so ago. It simply was not laid out well-hard to get to spectator parking, and all vehicle traffic had to drive right through the middle of the show. That said, it was still a good time. As a spectator, The very first thing I do is run through and get tons of pictures. A a spectator, the kind of show I like is determined more by the owners of the cars displayed than the people putting on the show. When a show has owners that stay with their car(s) to talk to the people who have come out to take a look that makes a show to me as a spectator. At smaller shows this is the normal approach, at most larger shows this is a rarity. At Amelia Island, I ran into only six owners(not talking sellers) who were at or in their cars, beaming at the chance to talk about the car! Many of the cars there had enthusiasts hovering, waiting to see who would show up, some had salesmen hawking to anyone that cot within 100 yards, and a few had models paid to look pretty and share what little they knew about the cars There was one older woman owner-absolutely radiant about having her car at Amelia Island, she was dressed in period attire, and though she probably didn't perform the restoration of her car, it was obvious she was there every day asking questions, making sure her car was finished to meet her love for it. I talked to her at length, and when I went to take pictures of her car, she started to get up and move. When she did, I told her the only thing more beautiful than a glorious picture of her car would be a glorious picture of her car with her in it. That was one of the best moments I have had at a car show., and this is the picture.

John, I've been meaning to talk to you about that... You are supposed to WATCH the G-string bikini contests, not enter to win! Will

I won't tell you, but if you give me the owners name I'll pull the trailer by your house on the way home... Will(that's a yes)

Mike, There is this neat tool the owner of this site gave all of us....called "search"..... It is a good thing that having my tongue in my cheek(and not one of the two I am sitting on) doesn't affect my typing! Z content....Nissan never released a "Datsun" key for the Z(no reference to it in any parts book-78), but I have seen a dealer issued key that did have the Datsun Logo on it-matching their License tag frame, dealer tag, and dealer emblem. I'll hunt for a picture-it was all a collection of dealership tie-ins Will

Welcome to the club. I have a Tank from a '72 that I can photograph and measure for you tomorrow, Will

Nor could you see the devilment in my eyes as I posted my reply! well, all but the key part... Will

I have been called worse-something to the effect of and "old man with no understanding of the "new fangled" 350z" leaps to mind! I have no issues with being called any of the above, though "Bill" and "Mr. Stokes" are my father... Back to content... These are the keys I have to make Dies from. Also pictured is a new ignition cyl. with two new style replacement keys. I have several sets of these if anyone has a need, and I bought them from a locksmith who was going through his "old" inventory and was parring down. I have both keyways of the oval key, One side is NOS out of a lock set for an early car,and Not pictured is a second complete NOS lock set I bought from a member who posted them available on a thread here, as I recall he had several sets, and some of us got lucky for around $200...wait, that sounds wrong somehow... Will

The top piece is turned under the top of the underlying piece. I believe Distinctive Industries makes the kits that everyone sells. Will

Mike, and everyone else I apologize for flaming defining actions that I found detrimental and offensive. It was not my intention to make maters worse, but I see that is clearly exactly what they did. I apologize for hijacking the thread, and pushing it somewhere with only marginal Z content. While my intentions were good, they were not a necessary and productive addition to a thread, forum, or this club-and I should have recognized that before posting. William Stokes

I don't think you'll find that at a car lot 'round here! Will

This guy obviously owns some other kind of car-probably one seriously trounced by 240Zs back in the day, and it wouldn't shock me if this thread is posted on some Parsche/BMW/ Alfa forum somewhere as a "here's you sign" humor poking fun at Z owners... Will

And Johns car

And a few more...

And some others...

Here are a few of that Porsche and its younger brother. The originals are 8mp, I'll add someof the others... Will

I am going to post all of the pictures somewhere, but when I posted to the archives here, I picked and chose the best of what a I took-I took a healthy number detail shots, to pick up the particulars of many of the details of the rare cars there. My though was the full on shots would be the most interesting to the members here. Will

Just kidding about the problem, or am I? I really don't know what they all look like! Will

I hesitate to include this one because it gives Free Beer! Anheuser-Busch gives free tours of their Jacksonville brewery, complete with company history, brewing knowledge and free beer! 111 Busch Drive Jacksonville, FL 32218 +1 904 696 8373 Open Hours10am-4pm Mon-Sat http://www.budweisertours.com/toursJACK.htm I guess I answered the question I posed above-Huh! Will PS, On further investigation the tours may have been suspended-but all it takes is free beer to get your attention!

"Your wheel collection was your ticket out" Still addicted I see! Will

I have a long list of other family things to do in the Jax area, most are of the playground/arcade/inflatable(not your kind of inflatable toy there E!)rides type thing, I am getting the web links set up too so they can be completely checked out. I will list the places I have been first and give my thoughts of them, those that I haven't been to, you'll know as much about as I do. My thought was that those of us that will go to See Carl could get together for Friday night/Saturday for something before the Amelia Island show on Sunday. Whether it is renting a pavillion at one of the ocean front parks for a Saturday drive up Z show/swap meet, or just hunting down the closest Hooters(Restautant there guys!)! What kind of thing would you guys be up for? Will