26th-Z

That car looks very much like 27th. Does it run? Jim, I think your estimate for restoration is way low however I think that restored to that 'as delivered' condition would yield what the restoration ends up costing, (labor comment well taken) or, break even. I'm anxious to see what it sells for. Perhaps one would consider restoring it to 'barn find' condition!

Yea, well...there is no fender on 26th to crawl up under...and no suspension to mount a wheel on either! We're still "restorating".

What do I think? I think I have my 'A's and 'B's mixed up! And I also thought it was a spoke style issue but what you point out, Dan, is perfectly logical. So I guess I have to admit that I don't know squat about all this high-tech offset and backspacing lingo! So, I went out to the shop and measured mine. Turns out I have 14x6.5j type As! Surprise! I have Toyo Spectrum radials mounted - P185/70 R14s. Some time ago, I loaned my wheels and tires to a friend (280Z) while he had his wheels done. No issues. I'm going to have to read up on the offset explanation, evidently I don't understand what I think I do, however my roughly measured backspacing ( back of center plate to rim edge ) is roughly 105 mm. Does that help? I'll change the titles on my pictures!

I picked up a set of 14x6j type B wheels some time ago, Dan. They are very nice. You mentioned considering a type A wheel. Thought I would post pictures of the difference. Eiji was a huge help to me when I bought my set. Helped me get lug nuts and center caps.

Little back-story on this poster. As I understand, this poster is from a limited edition re-print of the original. Years ago Ron Carter and I got into a bidding war for an original; at that time, a pretty rare find. I have a pretty extensive Z poster collection and, of course, Ron had the finest replica of the original car. Ron and I struck a deal and as part of that deal, the original was used to create what BRE is selling now. You can tell the difference as the re-prints are not quite the same size as the original. None-the-less, this is a very high quality poster; identical to the original commemorative. I would be very proud to have one signed by both Brock and Morton. Is it worth something 'premium'? I don't think so, but that would never stop me from having it in my collection. The funny part of this story is the difference between what I paid for my poster and what the BRE's limited edition cost. Joke's on me! Here's another rare one.

Nobody referenced this old thread: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/misc-s30/27823-rare-tools-early-car.html

You guys realize that there is no such thing as 'Series I' and 'Series II', don't you? Those terms are just made up by us enthusiasts to describe the evolution differences between model years. I have never seen any Nissan produced literature that announces anything like a new or updated series II. We just use those terms and really the observation should be that the metal fan seems inappropriate for that build. Of course, I agree that the side vents and Nissan OHC valve cover amongst other things would indicate a 'Series II'.

That's called a film short; similar to what you would see if you attended any of a number of short film festivals around the world. It's not a Datsun commercial. It's an 'art' film. The short was sponsored by Datsun (probably Datsun Australia?) similarly to Nissan sponsored films like Warren Miller's extreme sports videos. Datsun vehicles were used; seemingly featured in the story line. I liked the LSD comment - .

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Yutaka Katayama is 105 today.

So give them an e-mail address and a password or don't register! Geeze! k33fer, looks like a pretty cool site. Great way to keep a finger on the price pulse of the collector car market. I haven't spent all that much time on the site. The search engine worked just fine for me. I'll bet that you plan to expand? I can see myself spending much more time on the site AND recommending this to friends. Good luck and keep up the good work! Here's the e-mail I got from Vintage Wheels: Thanks for joining us! We're building the world's most comprehensive collection of classic and vintage cars. Today, that's over 80,000 cars from the USA and 50 countries around the globe. Everything from exotic Ferraris to original Minis to classic Mustangs and much, much more.

NADA Classic Car price guides show retail pricing between $8,300 and $28,500 with the average retail price of $16,000.

I'm really happy to see this thread go in this direction. The comments have been wonderful. I share your opinions of the Vintage Zs, they are close to me, as Alan pointed out. Thanks Alan. When I linked the threads from the archives, I read them, allowing my thoughts to wonder back to those times. Yes, we finally got the F-word sorted out! Personally, I look to the Vintage Zs as a standard for restoration. High or low standard is irrelevant; just a standard. An expectation of results if one approaches a restoration in a certain manner. So, the auction closed?!!?? Carl? Do you know what happened?

I just whipped through my collection of Vintage Z photographs and none of them show luggage straps. I don't think I noticed that before. The rear deck carpeting seems to be correct depending on where the tool kit lids are on the chassis, but no luggage straps on any of them. I do have a series of photographs of a car that was claimed to be a left-over, unfinished, partially assembled Vintage Z. Luggage straps are in the collection of parts that were photographed however they are not in part bags so who knows if they were replacement parts or originals.

I was thinking; while we're talking about it, a couple of references to the archives would be good. Some seriously entertaining reading here: This one discusses the appropriateness of the term "factory", the 'F' word; http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/misc-s30/14243-just-bought-factory-restored-72-240z.html Here's the thread I started about my research into the Vintage Z / Z Store program; http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/misc-s30/15911-z-restoration-progam.html And another early thread of interest; http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/open-s30-z-discussions/27418-factory-restored-240zs.html Enjoy!

This is HLS30-04295. Super interesting - $35,000 - sale we have not seen in some time. Take a good look at the photographs. You will see things that were typical of the restorations however not exactly correct to model year. That's all part of the story. The seller incorrectly states that these cars (approximately 37 of them) were "factory" restored. No they weren't. The restorations were made by four private southern California Z-car specialists under contract to Nissan; the most prominent being Pierre Z.

I think you're right

I spent much more than $2,900 on each of my cars a long time ago. I suggest you scoop that car up. Every dime you put into getting that car running will translate to value, I'm certain. That car (reasonably rust free) is worth much more than $2,900 - running. Much more. Realizing it has clutch and brake problems; I don't see why you can't at least turn the engine over without a lot of hassle. You may be in for a big ordeal if you really want to start it. Pull the spark plugs out and listen to it spin - at least. Unless you find something horribly wrong - and I'll bet you don't - snap that baby up!

That is "Tank Assembly - Reservoir" 21510-E4201. My notes say that you may find it as E6300, but I don't remember what that was all about. The bracket is 21515-E4200 and E4201. The parts book I have shows it specifically for the S20 engine.

Hey 240dkw! Great picture of your "early" carburetors. I would bet that your air filter housing did not have any decals like mine. Here are pictures of the non-emission exhaust manifold.

Thanks for the video links. Very well done videos. I wasn't at the convention and have to say that I was skeptical when I first saw the photographs. Even called up a friend at the convention to ask what the hell. The car resembles the original Matsuo sketches I have, but not the same. "Making the Z Sport Wagon" really answers my questions and I can see how much influence - genuine influence - the design has from Matsuo san. My hat is off to the project team for taking on a very unique project...and pulling it off!

The car was custom built by JDM Car Parts www.jdm-car-parts.com from a 2+2 chassis as I understand. Great pictures, Carl. I think this is the original Matsuo sketch, isn't it?

Les is at the ZCCA convention in San Diego.

Alan, John Morton won the SCCA C Production national championship on Sunday, November 29, 1970. I don't have any record of wins for the BRE car (s) or Bob Sharp's efforts prior to that date however this would be the significant race / date to compare. I think you will find that there was far more S30 racing activity (and success?) in Japan by that late date in November 1970. Marty, I also want to comment about the reference you made to Paul Newman, in the context of the early racing S30s and their drivers. Paul Newman won the C Production national championship in 1979 - in a 280ZX. C Production championships won in S30 machines belong to John Morton, Bob Sharp, Walt Mass, Elliot Forbes-Robinson, Logan Blackburn and Frank Leary.

Hey Alan great photo! You never cease to amaze me. Is that the roll hoop I see? If so, does that resemble the layout for the Nissan competition hoop?