26th-Z

I'll grant you that the panel is missing but the hole is clearly there. So is the rear marker light. Guys! That's a Toyota. Nice fender flares. Just like a Cheetah girl though, driven hard, put to bed wet...

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No doubt it's an early car, but why not just list the VIN number? If the seat covers are just on to protect the seats, wouldn't you think they would be taken off for the sale photos? The rust bubble in the fender is really a hole. The luggage straps are missing and the rear interior valance has the access panels to the tail lights which is not early. It looks like it could be a nice restoration candidate but I suspect the price typo is just a reflection of the rest of the ad including the pictures. You'd have to go look at it and bargain in cash. It looks like it's worth more than $1200 but not $12,000.

I saw the conversation on the Facebook page. The question was basically answered when Carl Beck replied that the listing on his web site was accurate and up to date. the Z Car Home Page - Z Car Registry - Vintage Z. It probably is; as Carl notes, we really haven't seen much trading of the Vintage Z's in the last few years. I read some more of Carl's comments / conjecture of what the value of these vehicles might be today. I would tend / hope to agree. If you search the archives here, you'll find a lot of information about the restoration program including the comments that Nissan / Datsun was not the first or only car manufacturer to sell refurbished / restored vehicles. I will argue, though, that Nissan's approach was unique. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/misc-s30/15911-z-restoration-progam.html

No, sorry, I'm not going to make it - again. Sounds like you are going to have a great convention though. The left-coast conventions are great fun.

I'm going to miss you, Kats! Oh frustration! I think you should enter your PS30 in the stock class and expect to win a gold medallion. The judges can't take any points off for non-stock items because they have never seen a PS30 and don't have clue what is stock original and what is not!

Just reading through the June issue of "SportsCar" the SCCA publication.... RUNOFF'S VIDEOS FOR SALE All 24 races broadcast from the 50th SCCA National Championship Runoffs are now available individually on DVD or via digital download through Amazon.com and CreateSpace. The race videos can be purchased for $8.99 per race on DVD, and $2.99 per race as a digital download. I have searched and I can't find Greg's race. If anyone has luck, let me know.

2177 is a California dealer license plate.

Ok, sorry this took so long. This was taken at the Long Beach Datsun Grand Opening in early 1970. L to R are: 1. Charles (Chuck) Fawcett - L.A. Regional Service Manager 2. Lazlo Kovacs - Owner of Long Beach Datsun 3. George Altoff - Senior VP of Bank of America … He was Lazlo's Banker 4. Robert Link - Western Area Sales Manager 5. Bob Pritchard - L.A. District Sales Manager 6. Mr. Katayama - President, Nissan USA 7. Gordon Whitby - L.A. Regional Sales Manager

Zombii, I have Zedd findings pans and frame rails and am very satisfied with them. At the time I did the work, they were the only alternative; so I don't have any experience with others. I didn't have to replace the seat mounts as mine were still in good shape. Couple of comments about your question... Replacing floor pans is a big project and if you are grousing around about the price of parts you really ought to rethink your expectations. There's no cheap or cheaper fix for this issue. And I agree completely with your fabricator friend. Do it right. You'll get the most satisfaction from the result. The Zedd findings pans have quite a bit of extra metal which should address your tunnel rust issues. Any pan you buy is going to have some trimming and fitting required before it is welded into place. Also, there is no "replacement" pan as the original floors and tunnel were all one piece. The seat mounts are important for safety reasons. New mounts from Bad Dog are very nice, not an exact match to original, but easy to work with and well worth the price. The location of the transmission mount brackets is important for drive train alignment. Either bolt the transmission carrier in place when you fabricate and / or do one floor at a time. Same with the seat brackets. Be careful to accurately locate them from your original before you start cutting everything apart. Good luck and may the welding torch grace your Z with good, stiff pans!

Saw the write-up on Sports Car Digest. Congrats, Bob!

The guy on the far right is Gordon Whitby, Western Area Sales Manager.

Nope! Guessing again. Robert O. Link, National Sales Manager.

I'm guessing but the fourth guy from the left is Jack Nielson, National Fleet and Truck Manager for Datsun USA, I think.

I used Bar's Stop-Leak all the time when I had and raced British Cars. Came in handy on road trips! It's a real good temporary fix and should work real well in an 'L' engine. If it doesn't, the leak needs to be repaired properly. Always flush the cooling system when you make repairs.

Congratulations! I don't understand what you mean. The total number of HLS30s built in 1969 is far less than 1700 - far less. Your car is on Carl Beck's registry Classic Z Car Register Looks like you will be having fun with your early car.

I would think yes. There's a very active club in Ontario Ontario Z-Car Owners Association

I want to chime in on this. I produced the 2010 car show in Nashville and was associate director of the ZCCA in 2009 and 2010. I have never been to the MSA event. The ZCCA is a huge car club involving scores of Z-car owners and enthusiasts all over the world. The annual convention is several days of activities involving Z-cars and related Datsun / Nissan cars. It encompasses several activities with cars; it is not just a one-afternoon car show. There are rally and racing events, motor tours, and social events for the participants to get to know each other and share experiences. One of the most important things is for the host club to show off their special city and region and for the participants to experience something new, travel...with their cars! That is why the convention is in a different place every year and that is why there is simply no comparison to other outstanding Z-car events. For instance: If not for the 2004 convention in Long Beach I wouldn't have met Mr. Katayama, Len Welch, Katsuhiko Endo, John Morton, Brian Long, and many, many new friends including Lai Mee from Hooter's. I wouldn't have paid extra for a heavy suitcase full of car parts! If not for the 2005 convention in Rochester, I wouldn't have driven Watkins Glen and paid extra for that heavy suitcase. If not for the 2006 convention, I wouldn't have driven the new 350Z r-tune. I wouldn't have trophied the hardest rally I have ever run. And I had two suitcases to ship home from Dallas. Oh! And then there was that evening with the Japanese guys touring the gentlemen's clubs! If not for the 2008 convention in Cleveland, I wouldn't have driven Lime Rock, experienced the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, or sampled Nissan's new GT-R. San Antonio in 2009 was just over the top. I met Steve Millen, drove a great rally through hill country, saw the Alamo, found a really great junk yard, and I gotta mention Amanda the Z1 Motorsports model. Whew! The annual convention is so much more than a car show. Go to San Diego - have fun - give my best to the Hooter's girls - enjoy clowning around with all your Z-car friends.

Tardis, I'm assuming you are talking about POR-15. My comment comes from a "collector's point of view". I doubt any "collector" is going to purchase a car covered up in POR-15; I wouldn't. POR-15 does not stop the rusting process. It is an encapsulator, meaning that rust may continue, unnoticed, beneath a material that is near impossible to remove. I suggest that you clean out the body seams, reseal them and paint the surface - just as it was done at the factory 40 years ago.

From a collector's point of view, don't use "OR-15".

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Specifically, Fiber Reinforced Plastic, FRP. The fibers are not asbestos (where on earth does anyone get these ideas)! Looks good - I like the pictures. The stripe could have been installed by the dealer, but they are not how the car was imported. I suggest you start searching through the archives. There is a ton of information about the early cars.

Courtesy Nissan in Richardson Texas will be a good source for parts - whatever parts are still available for your year. Then there is Motorsport Auto and Black Dragon. I would hold on to the automatic. So many have been lost to conversions and your car being an early example makes it a conversation piece. Have fun and welcome to the club.

I have never seen an early HLS30U, HLS30UV, or HLS30UN (5 digit serial number) with a blue air filter. Ie., one that does not have the pre-heater tube on the snorkel. However I have a set of the service photographs that were part of the original North American dealership maintenance documents and the air filters / cleaners in those photographs are blue. Jerry's photographs are great for color reference, but a 1970 HLS30U would not have the pre-heater tube on the snorkel. If I were you, crazee1, I would keep the blue. After all, orange is so common! Show us a picture.

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