26th-Z

The B210 photo is very interesting, Alan. It appears level and uniform in contrast to the other photos in this thread. One thing shouts out to me. Is the B210 engraving after the body paint? Notice what appears to be remnants of a tape just below the serial number? I am reminded of the S30-00002 thread with a similar "something" around the serial number.

Ron, It doesn't appear as though the space OR alignment is uniform. The number isn't level either. It makes me wonder how the machine that made the numbers is used and set up. More so because of the theory that it was ground in place rather than before assembly of the fire wall which does not have much working space. Are you talking about the 'carat' (^) between the 3 and 0? That looks to me like the head of the rotary tool was dragged a bit between the two numbers. I wonder if the "serial number grinder" resembles some sort of Leroy device. That process involves a lot of hand and sight alignment between various characters.

Ok, Here are but six of my choices. It is interesting to see the results of this pole. Generally you guys are going along with accepted collectable car convention. Early models, stock configuration, racing heritage, and some sort of provinance like fame of an owner. 1. The BRE championship car or Ron Carter's but only if he corrects the tail lights. 2. Any low VIN HLS30 in stock configuration (first 100) 3. Mr. K's personal car. 4. ZRush, the most awarded modified Z in the United States. 5. Any stock PS30. This one happens to be PS30-00013 6. Any Vintage Z

Ouooo...I'ld be careful of that one. Rumor has it that there is NO proof.

Well that was one hell of a piece of quick investigation! Unleaded fuel only, huh? Notice the "Datsun Genuine Parts" backdrop? Send that to Alan! That ought to grab his craw!

I needed a light table to photograph these. I got the OK sticker years and years ago. It is new. But it is half the length of yours, Mike!?!!? Square in shape and not rectangular. The other sticker was given to me and I'm really not sure what it signifies. It is medium blue with reverse backing for application on glass apparently.

I am glad to see you bring this subject up again Ron. I am absolutely fascinated with the design and construction engineering of the S30. The sophistication of the chassis construction for the period is remarkable in my opinion. Now you bring to light the idea that the VIN was engraved in place - very interesting. I think I have posted these pictures from the collection before, but these may help illustrate. I first became interested when I picked up this photo of a complete floor from an eBay sale years ago. Then I started collecting pictures of the various metal stampings and repair parts from eBay ads. These, I assocated with the exploded diagrams and illustrations in the parts books to examine various assembly ideas. On a bare chassis like 26th was once, you can see the assembly welds contrasted with the fabrication spot welds. Then you and I got into that long e-mail discussion, Ron, and I collected some photos from Nissan corporate annual reports. This is a great subject!

Mike, I was out at the shop today and remembered this thread so I pulled out the envelope with my decal collection and guess what? I have an inspection sticker like your original. I'll be damned if I can get a scan of it because of the facing paper, but if you hold it up to the light you can see the alignment like you noticed. I also have another decal about the same size as the Ok decal but blue / white lettering and all in Japanese.

ZCCA Officer Nomination Letter 2009 Dear ZCCA Member: I have been asked to execute the ZCCA nomination procedures for election of new officers. I realize this is a short time frame, however as a member club, you have the opportunity to nominate candidates by proxy if you will not have a representative at the annual convention in San Antonio. The current positions up for election are: - Executive Director - Associate Director - Treasurer - Secretary As per the ZCCA by-laws, the nomination process outlines eligibility guidelines should a club member wish to run for office. Please return nominations to me by September 25, 2009 so that I may present them at the annual meeting. From the By-Laws: A. In order to be included in the pre-Convention ZCCA update, nominations of candidates for elected offices must be submitted in a written statement, not to exceed 150 words, by mail, email or fax to the Chairperson of the Nomination Committee no later than sixty [60] days prior to the start of applicable Annual Convention. B. Incumbents are eligible for nomination. C. All nominees, including incumbents running for office, must be nominated in writing. D. Nominations may be entertained from the floor at the initial ZCCA meeting at the annual convention. E. Only Members from current member clubs are eligible for nomination. Please return written copies to me at: (PM me as I don't want to post my contact info publicly) Thanks for your attention to this e-mail, we're looking forward to seeing everyone at the convention again this year! Sincerely, Christopher Wenzel ZCCA Nomination Committee Chairman “26th-Z”

Oops. Here's the letter attached

This letter has been sent to member clubs that I know of. If your local club is a ZCCA member club, please let your club director know about this letter and send me an e-mail with club contact info. Thanks, Chris

We will miss you, kats.

Will, You forgot to mention the most beautiful Zs. Her Majesty the 26th is very greatful as she doesn't want to sit around in no museum.

It was used on domestic models - not 'hardly' at all. The intention is not obvious. I'll grant you, doradox, an interesting point; homologation. But then, if Datsun (brought to you by Nissan) intended to build the S30 just for the Americans, why did they go to all the trouble to homologate the S20? BRE didn't use the S20. Neither did BSR. I'm not using that particular example as "proof". It's just one example of many. But back to HLS30-00013. There's nothing really all that special about it any more than any of the first 100 cars. It has a better pedegree than, say, Her Majesty the 26th but so what. Just another low-vin conversation piece. It would be great to see 13th restored and in a museum. It would be great to see 16th or 17th restored. It will be really great to see 26th restored!

My post was not deleted because I was off topic. I responded to incorrect information, presented my evidence, and was told that I couldn't possibly be correct because it didn't agree with what their guru was saying. The stripped down HLS30 came to America without carpeting, rear window defroster, parking lights, headlight covers, 5-speed transmission, aerodynamic devices, 8-track player, road emergency kit to name but a few items standard on the Fairlady ZL. Carpeting was originally dealer installed (thank you MikeB for that info) even though it is listed on the bill of sale. Now think about this...the S20 engine makes approximately the same horse power as the L24. Why wasn't it used for the export models? Well... it doesn't meet emission standards and offer the same HP as the L24 which does. So why wasn't the L24 used for racing? Because of the 2 liter classification. Alan my have some comments on this, but the fact that the various engines WERE used and the chassis designed to accomodate all three engines does NOT support the idea that the 240Z was designed specifically for American consumption. Look at this in terms of what an American can buy at the Nissan dealer today. Several different versions of various trim and performance packages on the basic model - track version, touring version, etc.

I was also the victim of thread deletion and lost the desire to contribute to the conversation on ctzcc. The thread is rife with incorrect information, opinion, and favors a discussion that is simply naive and short sighted. Fine. Let them believe what they want to. They obviously don't have a clue. I'm really tired of it all. Alan, I feel for you. As far as I can determine, 13th was totaled when it mounted a telephone pole and ended up in a junk yard before being rescued and reconstructed with a new radiator cross member. Nothing has been said about frame rail damage, but the bonnet is not an early one; obviously replaced in spite of what was said on ctzcc. I also read that the head had been replaced at one point. My recomendation is go to the site for the pictures and ignore the conversation for any historical value.

Photos of course! I don't know if I will be able to upload from the convention. I'll try. CW-

Wouldn't miss it. See you in San Antonio!

Sounds like the annual meeting will be good!

Thanks Alan. I think Mike McGinnis has one of these as I recall.

The Japanese drive on the left hand side of the road. Japanese cars are right hand drive. Kiwi, I DO know a lot about the S30 design history and I think the S30 was NOT marketed to a specific country. I think that the developing U.S. market under the leadership of Yutaka Katayama was a heavy influence but I don't believe that any direct influence from the U.S. market came until very late in the design program, perhaps begining in late 1967. I think the issue is increadibly obvious; the car was engineered for both left and right hand drive, it accomodates components for racing purposes, it accomodates three different engines, and all the Americans got was one version. And a stripped down version at that! The S30 design was heavily engineered and arguably the pinnacle of what Nissan technology had to offer at the time. I don't know why the argument even exists.

Yes, that looks to be a factory document of some sort. You might want to have it restored. There are people who restore paper - art prints, posters -they would be able to help you.

Turn up the volume...http://vimeo.com/6371713

The 3.9 final gear was standard for the F5C71A-5 five speed. We got the 3.364 final gear with the F4W71A-4. There are several final gear sizes in the competition catalogs however they are all listed as limited slip. This site may be of help http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/ But generally I agree with Arne, a 4.3 is dang low for street use.

Ron Carter! You mean to tell me that your tail light lenses aren't correct?!!?!!! There goes the neighborhood! My DelPrado model by Shin Yoshikawa has yellow lenses however the pictures from the booklet seem to be all red lenses. I wondered about that.