26th-Z

Has anyone seen these videos on YouTube? Very informative. Although not specifically Datsun, there are some very good points about tuning and cleaning.

Please let me know how that goes.

That would be # 903 blue http://zhome.com/History/ZColorGallary/index.html My take on why the original engine was replaced so quickly in a six year old car has to do with the lower numbered L24 engines. Mine are L24-2162 and L24-2338. 2796 seems high for VIN 110, doesn't it? Technical Bulliten TS70-15, dated 4.3.70, calls for a change in bolt length for the cylinder head begining with L24-4257. Then, TS70-28, dated 8.21.70, calls for a replacement crankshaft with eight counter weights instead of six begining with L24-3607. My engines have the reinforced oil pan which was a result of the crankshaft vibration issue and the three different sizes of head bolts. It may very well be that L24-2796 succumbed to the difficiencies, ie. crank or rob bearing - blown head gasket / warped head.

Here's the thread I'm thinking of. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21981&highlight=White+body

I would be very surprised to discover that I can buy an S30 chassis at this time. I would imagine that they went unobtanium decades ago. We did have a conversation about white bodies some time ago. I realize that they did exist. However...not now. I do believe he did miss your point, Alan.

Thought this might be appropriate.

Here's what 26th looked like when I bought her. I also had a Datsun pick-up at the time. It had a camper top. Drove it for years and into the ground.

Probably a poor example and not meant to justify the practice, but no, it was not necessarily done through a dealership and the manufacturer did it as much as private owners. There are registers of the GT-40s and the 917s. It is all documented. I recall reading about a renumbered works rally Z some time ago. I'll have to search through the archives. I would guess that Carl's site is the best registry going in the Z world. I ran across a registry of Z 432s in Japan.

I don't know what to tell you about "empiric evidence". I wouldn't consider myself "in the know" either. I have my opinion. I know where most of the first 100 HLS30s are and who owns them. I would say that we all pretty much think the same about the value of our cars. I'll bet we'll see see some of these cars in the next couple of years. And I'll bet $50,000 will be a good starting point. But here is a perfect example of how the "market" is going. http://www.classiczcars.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=3176&cat=1

"BTW, I'm still waiting for disclosure of sale for any of the F500 cars in restored #1/#2 condition. Don't know of any that have crossed the auction blocks in the last few years...Tough to guess a market value when no one's willing to sell. And rumors of sale without evidence don't do much--let's see some numbers!" You're not going to see those cars trade publicly. And they aren't necessarily being sold at this time. They're being acquired. What we DO see occasionally, is a superb example of a later model. Occasionally we see a Vintage Z cross the block. Those cars are trading in the $20,000 to $30,000 range. I can think of a couple of cars that would be marketed for more.

Let's not forget the Monte Carlo in 1971!

It's called "Air Car" and it was the topic of hot discussion in the muscle car market years ago. I could build HLS30-00403 if I wanted to. It is generally considered dishonest. In the race car world, renumbering a chassis is a common thing. Many Ford GT-40s and Porsche 917s were renumbered, for example, when the chassis needed to be replaced.

I love reading all the comments and some really good points are being made. It's pretty obvious what I think of all of this.

Is that a factory driving light switch in the dash? Is the gas door knob chromed plastic or chromed metal? It looks like it is the plastic type in the closed vertical position. Too bad the engine is gone. I was surprised to hear the high engine number for such a low VIN. Of course restore it!

No. What's the pet peeve, Arne? You like the emblems or shaved? To the best of my knowledge, all the Nissan spoilers were made with the same material as the headlight scoops - fiberglass reinforced plastic. The ones I have seen are heavier and quite substantial. I believe the BRE type are made with fiberglass cloth and a resin gel-coat.

This is what would be considered "correct" to give you an idea. Of course, you wouldn't use the Z432 or Fairlady emblem. However the BRE spoiler you are refering to is actually a reproduction of the Nissan spoiler as shown. I suggest you use the Datsun emblem and the 240Z emblem from the rear deck as the spoiler covers them up.

That's interesting. HLS30-00194 for sale in Rockville MD. Completely taken apart, on a rotisserie, for $12,000. Geeze!

Here's a picture of HLS30-00129.

Looks like you are having fun, Guus. Good to see you and your car! I like the jump photograph!

Congrats! You'll love all the peculiarities of the early cars. Keep us posted with picks! Great color!

I wonder what the VIN of that car is?

Yea, bring on the Ferraris. I too, like shows with lots of variety.

Nissan made a front spoiler for the Z although I don't think it was available on the American imports. The front spoiler is a flexable rubbery material and mounts to valance panels with captive nuts.

Owner's manual thread: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10171&highlight=Z432+owners+manual

The "ratdat" site does not include 907 green?!?!! Here is a link that should be in the thread. http://zhome.com/History/ZColorGallary/index.html