26th-Z

I don't think that there are any new oscillators to be had. Good idea, Will. That's the kind of thinking we need around here!

I am very sad to report that our friend Scott Moschetto passed away from a heart attack December 9th. Vicki called me last night. She is shattered and hasn't been able to talk with anyone for quite some time. Her husband and best friend was 43. Scott played drums in a band and suffered a massive coronary during one of his gigs. Vicki tells me that Scott's headstone will be engraved with ZRush and his drumsticks. I last saw Scott and Vicki at Z-Fest in Orlando last October. Scott coordinated the music for me during the event. Vicki tells me she is planning to sell the Vintage Z "Ol Yeller" but will keep ZRush and continue with the restoration of the Scarab. Chris

Kats, I’m going to reference some of your earlier threads so that everyone knows the history behind this conversation. These threads discuss the ink and paint date stamps on specific parts. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21432&highlight=date+stamp http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16870&highlight=date+stamp And this thread discusses what cars and how many were produced in 1969 – early 1970. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7801 I’m glad to see you back with pictures and information, Kats. Your new toy looks great and I hope you bring it to Florida!

Very nice, kats. I want the sound track on my iPod.

I have to agree with Arne and say from personal experience that it is possible to polish the wheels to that level and it is very difficult to keep them that way. My slots are cast with "Japan" in the casting and have been on 26th forever. I have polished them many times. They look stunning for about two weeks and then they just look great. That IS a great example picture. An old Nissan dealer poster photograph. Great look to the Z with the front spook and rear spoiler. CW-

That's your evaporative fuel recovery system and if the tank is plastic, it's an early one. Later tanks were metal. Good link above.

Which one?

Fred! That looks GREAT! Wow! I'm floored!

It snows on Easter weekend. Always did in Wisconsin. It didn't snow here, but it's too cold for the beach. Windy. Good day to work on the roof. CW-

Hey! How about that?! $4,500 isn't a bad price for a numbers matching car. With luck, most of the original stuff is still there. And with luck, being a California car, it's in pretty good shape. The numbers game, Montezuma, is precisely that. A numbers game. The 240Z was introduced in North America in October 1969. It had to be a 1970 model year because 1969 was almost over. What model year a manufacturer decides it should be is completely arbitrary. But yes, there really is no such thing as a 1969 model year Z. The 69ers call themselves that because of the build date. We in North America are fortunate to have a build date stamped into the ID plate in the door jamb. This allows us to have this numbers game. So we play the game. So, somebody buy this thing - fast - and come play with us in the Low VIN Club. We have some very distinguished members. Sort of the "wine-and-cheese" crowd of the 240Z marques, we trailer our cars and rest them on epoxy garage floors. Don't fret about restoring the car. We all have cars to be restored and we're all in the same boat. But we trade parts and covet our collections. Some of us go off and do other things like write books and conduct historical research. Some day, our cars will all be restored and pristine and what a hell of a day that will be! Don't miss that show! CW-

What ever happened to your search, Jeremy? I am in the midst of producing a DVD from English speaking films produced by Nissan Motor Corp., LTD. Stay tuned. Chris

Here's the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D120105953713%26fvi%3D1&item=120105953713

This thread comes on the heels of another hot topic last week about the sale of a 510. I would like to make clear that Interpart was a company formed to sell BRE stuff and market the BRE name. Interpart and BRE were two different entitites and Peter Brock (BRE) had only financial interest in Interpart. This stuff we are talking about is Interpart stuff from the Interpart catalogs. I have the 1973 Interpart catalog and the 240Z championship logo is not listed. When the Interpart shop burned, as Carl pointed out, most everything was lost and Interpart turned to marketing Mullholland (check spelling) shock absorbers. That is the reference I use to associate the fire to the company history. Would love to have copies of the other catalogs, Goose.

To all you history buffs and collectors of obsure Datsun history, Copy the pictures of the literature from the eBay listing. The literature is authentic and probably the only time you are ever going to see it. Same for the picture of the stopwatch. Probably the only one in existance.

I'm really glad to read the information you posted, Ron and Carl. Most of my questions were answered and I like the various points of view. There is no doubt that this car has potential and the documentation of the claims made by the seller as well as those made by Brock, Morton, et. al. contribute to what could be an interesting car. The proof, though, is in the metal. One would just have to see the car before deciding if the "history" is interesting enough to warrent the price. I wonder what the 510 crowd is saying about this.

Oh! Well then you guys will get a kick out of this. Here are the eBay photos of 27th when I bought her. I remember Carl saying that the car couldn't be any worse than the pictures...

"1970 240z first hundred ever made" kind-a had me going.

Yea. This has been the subject of e-mail chatter for the last couple of days. Carl Beck and I have been talking about this one.

It may sound like picking it apart, and some posts are a little ugly, but this is called "critique" and it is an entertaining game we play. In defense of the car, we can't really pick it apart because all we have to go by are the photographs. Critique is a perfectly normal thing to do and as long as we keep it constructive and don't go down the ugly path, we can enjoy a conversation about what we see or don't see concerning our knowledge and the sales presentation.

Yea, interesting thread. Braided hose in straight lengths is still available commonly. The Germans use it. Braiding is close, but not correct. I have heard of inserting copper tubing inside straight hose and bending it to replicate the brake master vac. hose although I haven't tried that myself. I don't think one has to have the real stuff to score a gold medallion - just have the hoses one way or the other, braided or plain - not mixed.

According to my records 25410-E4600, assy - fuse block, was good up to 12/70 and was replaced begining 1/71 with 25410-E8600 which was good up to 7/73 when it was replaced with 25410-E8800. The long tail fuse block is 25410-E4600. My cars have long tail fuse blocks

Bryan, Add three grommets to my order, please, and let me know when you want me to send money. I'm in no hurry. BTW everybody. I bought a shift boot in leather and ordered the e-brake and pigtail cover in leather. I am very satisfied with everything. Chris

53 on the beach in Sarasota, Florida

Hey Carl, Kats and I rode down to MSA in his car during the convention in Long Beach. Yes, I have seen his car in person, up close. I don't know what he is talking about. Kats entered the daily driver class so that he wouldn't have to compete in stock and took home a trophy for his smart move. That's what I call "understanding the car show rules"! There is no confusion. Kats knew he would win. There is no such thing as "extra points". In the stock class, a perfect replacement part will score as well as a perfect original part unless the replacement part did not come on that particular model year. For example, a grapefruit alternator can not be replaced on a 1970 model year by the later version without loosing points for the wrong part. In daily driver, correctness of parts to model year is not judged.

I do not agree with you, Kats. Judging the stock class does indeed include original everything according to the year of manufacture. I judged with Jim Frederick and Charlie Osborne in Syracuse and Fred Buoni and Todd Wagner in Dallas. The cars we looked at were very very stock. Fabric hoses, original tires, everything. Over the years, I have seen original survivors as well as restored examples. I think the ZCCA does a superb judging and cars awarded their highest honors are very special cars. The ZCCA recognizes several different types of dealer installed air conditioning systems that were present on a majority of early Z cars and holds to those manufacturers because they were the most common and serve the greatest number of members. 26th had a York piston type compressor. A friend of mine just flew out to California to service another friend's Healey 2000. Funny you should speak of old Healeys. Don just bought his for $80,000 from a guy who just sold another at auction for $125,000. Nice Healeys are worth more than $60,000 currently. But so are nice Zs. I don't think you would argue, Carl, and we have seen someone collect them in the last two years, that nice Zs have gone way up in value. Hell, ask Dan what he would sell his Gold Medallion '71 for! I like the idea of testing how a car works. It would be difficult to test performance, but a car could be started and driven around for a short distance as part of judging. Good idea! Chris