26th-Z

This is the second time in a week that I have heard about interior panel squeek, rattle, and noise! Humphf! Now an attack on those cute "once-in-a-lifetime" rivets! When I started restoring my car, interior rivets were a premium on eBay, but now they seem to be commonly available again. In all colors. I believe the panels were originally fit with thin foam strips on the edges to keep them from making noise and I have used silicon sealant as a gasket in the past. Most of the old panels I remove have only the tattered remnanats of the foam remaining. Although screwing is generally a great idea, I like the drywall anchor suggestion. Keep in mind that a fastener like a screw may crack or chip the plastic panel.

I don't think anyone really knows for sure when the emblem changed from a chrome Z to a white Z. I know the chrome Z is quite rare and didn't appear on many cars. Kats discussed this some tme ago in terms of differences in the shape of the emblem. He maintained that the mold for the hollow cast white Z was different from the mold of the hollow cast chrome Z. I think white Z metal emblems on a March 1970 car are fine and I wouldn't slam points in a competition for it. I'm going to put hollow metal chrome Zs on my cars because I only have the one solid casting. I'm saving the emblem to talk about in Hooter's over a beer... or two. The bidder "old guy" is a member of this site and of the Low VIN club. But check out the seller's other items. Hand throttle, 'D' hubcaps, ash tray.

Oh my! Perhaps I have expressed myself in a confusing manner. There are two versions of the "chrome Z", hollow cast and solid cast. 76807-E4600 shows application up to 1-70 and replaced by E4601. E4602 shows application up to 12-70 when it is replaced by E8200 which I believe to be the round vented emblem to coincide with the vents in the quarter wings. Of the early 240Z emblems, they come in chrome Z metal, white Z metal and white Z plastic. I have no idea what part numbers go with these. The point I was making was VERY anal and just a point of interest. Before there were chrome Zs, metal cast, and hollowed out on the back side, there were chrome Zs, metal cast, and solid. Here is a picture of mine. Solid hunk of metal - quite heavy. This emblem, as I heard from Mr. Matsuo, was the original prototype production emblem. Several hundred of the first HLS30s were fitted with solid cast emblems and every one I have seen came off a 1969 production car- pre December. Of course, this is very anal. Once you put the emblem on the car, you can't tell the difference. I bought this on eBay many years ago and got into a bidding war with another member on this site whom I did not know at the time. I paid $100 for this.

Got a phone call about this last night. Always interesting to see early stuff for sale. This emblem is hollow cast, meaning the back is hollowed out rather than a solid piece of metal. The most early chrome Z emblems were solid cast. This emblem would be most appropriate for a later 1970 build car - say late spring / early summer 1970.

Paul, There are tons of articles on site about buying new vs replating either sending it out or doing it yourself. You will find that gold cadmium plating is rather difficult, but there are people around who do it. Several companies sell stainless steel kits for complete areas of the car and I also know of guys who have tried to get Nissan hardware. It all is an option, depending on what you expect from your project. I cleaned my hardware in a rock tumbler, wire brushed it all, cleaned it all up, and sent it out. I went through three different companies before I found the finish I really wanted and learned a lot about how to prepare the old hardware to be restored. You will find lots of stuff searching the internet.

Pictures of the heater face plate from 26th. 27th is the same. White letters on adhesive lables. Notice the "air", "temp", and "defroster" labels are not painted nor are the fan switch settings. Generally speaking, one will find that early cars were quite crude with respect to the individual parts compared to the later cars and later versions of parts.

Concure with MikeW. The 62300-E4101 shows application to the Japanese Fairladys (all versions) and the 432 Fairlady. The 62300-N3000 indicates from model year '73. The E7200 version is listed for the 432R. Our version of the grill E4601 is listed for the export models H and HL. This grill on eBay is used!?!??? Perhaps it is the E4101 version which is why Charlie wants so much for it?

Thanks for the PM, Ron. I have the original shipping information for 26th and she didn't arrive on American shores until May of 1970. What with the engine number and all, it is quite possible that she didn't see the light of day until after 357 was assembled. Interesting.

Yea, zhead. An armorer? You go, guy! 907 green rocks! The tail lights and valance are from a later model 260, I think. You should be able to find a valance easy enough. I may have one. Tail lights are going to be spensive! Nice project car! CW-

The number stampings are the same size, geezer. The blocks were stamped, evidently, with individual dies and they don't line up very well. I think that is what you are seeing. The firewall numbers usually line up much better. I'm surprised to see a VIN this high with a November manufacturing date. 26th is November. But I think she was pulled out of line for a new engine. Her engine # is 2338. 27th, on the other hand, is engine # 2162 and she is an October car.

I would be real careful of this car if you are considering buying it. Read the description closely and look for the discrepancies in what is said. It may very well be a numbers matching car, but clearly it has many incorrect parts. No early Z imported into America came with "factory" air. Air conditioning at the time was a dealer installed option. Best of luck to the buyer.

Thanks for the pictures, Bob. Flip over to the other thread.

Jush gots bak form the bar crying in my beer. $34? Is that all? OMG cry cry.

Arne, Although Mike McGinnis of Banzai Motorworks did not restore any cars in the Vintage Z program, he provided detailed replica parts including identification plates to replace damaged originals. In addition to a wide assortment of rubber parts, Mike provided instructional and identification decals that were on the original production cars. Shops / people who actually restored the cars are: Pierre Perot - PierreZ Les Cannaday - Classic Datsun Mark Jones - Datsun Alley Terry Stokes - Old Car Service* *As named in "Greetings from the Z-Store at Nissan Corporate", 1998 Just thought I sould make the clarification. Chris

Thanks everyone for the kind regards. I received a number of e-mails as well. Have talked with Vicky a couple of times this week and I feel she is doing well. You stick around here Vicky! You have tons of friends and support here! Vicky tells me that Scott's headstone will be engraved with a picture of ZRush and his drumsticks - how cool. At some point, I was asked about pictures of the Scarab and I said that I didn't have any. Not true. I only saw the Scarab once and found this shot of that day. We were all headed up the road and I must have been hanging out the window to take this photo. Scott is driving - Vicky in the co-pilot's seat. Thought everyone would enjoy this. Chris

Thanks for the pic, Jack. Way cool.

That's a great collection of pictures from Jeff. Can I have the box? I'll give a hunnerdollars for the box! I recall someone asked about mounting location. Check out Kats' 432 pictures on his web site. That's our baby on the firewall next to the "emergency signal lamp". To Hell with the clock...have you ever seen and "emergency signal lamp"? I gotta have an emergency signal lamp!

Yes, good guy - active member of this site.

I don't think that there are any new oscillators to be had. Good idea, Will. That's the kind of thinking we need around here!

I am very sad to report that our friend Scott Moschetto passed away from a heart attack December 9th. Vicki called me last night. She is shattered and hasn't been able to talk with anyone for quite some time. Her husband and best friend was 43. Scott played drums in a band and suffered a massive coronary during one of his gigs. Vicki tells me that Scott's headstone will be engraved with ZRush and his drumsticks. I last saw Scott and Vicki at Z-Fest in Orlando last October. Scott coordinated the music for me during the event. Vicki tells me she is planning to sell the Vintage Z "Ol Yeller" but will keep ZRush and continue with the restoration of the Scarab. Chris

Kats, I’m going to reference some of your earlier threads so that everyone knows the history behind this conversation. These threads discuss the ink and paint date stamps on specific parts. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21432&highlight=date+stamp http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16870&highlight=date+stamp And this thread discusses what cars and how many were produced in 1969 – early 1970. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7801 I’m glad to see you back with pictures and information, Kats. Your new toy looks great and I hope you bring it to Florida!

Very nice, kats. I want the sound track on my iPod.

I have to agree with Arne and say from personal experience that it is possible to polish the wheels to that level and it is very difficult to keep them that way. My slots are cast with "Japan" in the casting and have been on 26th forever. I have polished them many times. They look stunning for about two weeks and then they just look great. That IS a great example picture. An old Nissan dealer poster photograph. Great look to the Z with the front spook and rear spoiler. CW-

That's your evaporative fuel recovery system and if the tank is plastic, it's an early one. Later tanks were metal. Good link above.

Which one?