26th-Z

Here are the installation instructions for the parcel bar, a "factory authorized" accessory that wasn't available in Japan. This particular printing is the rare AMCO version. Prolly not worth as much.

Of course, of course. But notice the references to Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. on the warranty information and the distinct lack of any Nissan reference on the accessory brochure from your web site. Given the understanding that accessories (options) were available from Nissan Motor Co. Ltd., and that they collectively differed from the accessories simply labeled Datsun, wouldn't you think that the "factory" term would be disgarded in favor of a more intellectual discussion of the nuances of our precious import? And given the understanding that the licensing of Amco products was peculiar to the North American market and not the manufacturer of the cars, wouldn't you think the word "factory" warrants an explanation? It's this muddled thinking that had me concerned!

If this original packaging is worth its weight in gold, the first $500 in my paypal account takes the mirror. The perfect Valentines gift for your wife's visor. Shipping included in a waterproof floating box. And this particular accessory is unique in that it is "factory" authorized yet there is no mention of Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. anywhere. Check your stripe kit, Carl. Does it say "Nissan" anywhere? But, whoa! Option number 8 from the dealer brochure is a stripe kit. Doesn't look like it is going to fit on an HLS30, though. I wonder which one is "factory"?

Here is the AMCO foot rest you would have if you bought the Datsun option in America, and a foot rest you would have if you ordered the option in Japan. Which one is "Factory / factory / f-word / F-word"?

Carl, Many, many thanks for your kind remarks. I love you too. I understand where you are coming from with the warranty conversation but the relevance to this conversation escapes me. The point I was trying to make was that Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. had optional equipment available in Japan in 1970 that does not coincide with the optional equipment published on your web site - optional equipment from 1972 on. I thought we had been down this road before and, believe me, I'm just as concerned about this muddled thinking as you are! Here is the options page from the 1970 dealer brochure. Considering your remarks about the equality of the two corporate identities, do you not find it strange that what was available in Japan was not published in America? And what was published was sourced from a separate manufacturing group? Chris

Yes, that's why part numbers were assigned and the option catalog published that Carl referenced. The "Factory Authorized" is a bit of a misnomer as well. In this case, "factory" means Datsun USA not Nissan Ltd. Nissan had optional equipment for the S30 from day one, but Datsun USA bought the rights to the AMCO line which did include some aftermarket manufactured Nissan Ltd. options. I have a set of the towel bars, foot rest, clip-on visor mirror and luggage bar.

Only from 1972 on. Prior to 1972 they were AMCO aftermarket accessories.

Your sarcasm is so spot-on. Thanks for the chuckle!

Nice pictures, Mike. I notice that the B&Ws are eBay pics. Do you know if / what the car sold for?

When it comes to the argument of which is the greatest racing movie of all time, I'm on the Grand Prix side. So much of that film is the real deal and the actors aren't all actors. Those are the real guys. Something like Grand Prix could never be made today. At this point, it is more and more of a documentary. Glad you were impressed. Another factoid; every racing accident depicted in Grand Prix actually happened at one point in F1 history. The Trans Am Tribute was last November at the Petersen Automotive Museum.

Just "came across" Grand Prix? Dude! Where have you been?!

They look pretty bad all by themselves. Rad, dude! Those polished domes aren't stock!

April 1970 engine bay for comparison

Have a look at this thread http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=37273

I bailed on Wisconsin in 1969 but I'm still a Packer fan. I didn't think the TABCO panels were any harder to work with than any metal patching project. Yea, you gotta shape and work the metal...and your point? Find a competant metal guy. I vote cut the '73 up and save the '71.

Oh, I'm right there with you guys! I'll be very interested to see what this goes for...and to whom! I can't read the door plate. Would that be an 11/69 car?

Doug, On the spreadsheet, you list HLS30-73667 and say it is "listed as a Vintage Z but it is not". I'm curious as HLS30-73891 is one of the cars I'm looking for. Where is it listed? What can you tell me about 73667? Chris

I just did some editing. I have some incomplete information about a bunch of cars missing from this list. I wonder if I should add it or mind my own business?

http://www.pape.ws/allan_and_rosanne/Z-Car_Stuff/

That's interesting. Both Nissan and PPG say that PPG paints were used in the Vintage Z program. I have no intention of bad-mouthing either of these guys but Les restored no more than two of the Vintage Zs and neither Pierre nor Les painted any of the cars. We are well aware that "originality" was not a primary focus of the re-assembly efforts from either one of them. I am surprised to read the jabber about a color match chip for quality control purposes. In a post further down, a reference is made to the dark green color as "908". There is no such color. "Racing Green", or sometimes refered to as "Grand Prix Green" is 907. I'm glad to read that you are all refering to 920 correctly as "Safari Gold". I just read in a magazine "Sahara Gold". Wrong! There MikeB, I decided to be a prick about it! Cheers!

Thanks. I couldn't remember where I got those images so I didn't say anything. Great graphics. From everything I can find, the Prince emblem seems to be a stylized 'P' on a shield. No Griffins - with or without claws.

xs10shl, Sent you a PM.

Check these out.

In the United States of America, every citizen has the right to free speech. Let's please keep that in mind and climb down off everyone's back.

April 1970 car with 19,000 miles.