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@Patcon They might have kissed the corner just before the picture was taken since - would be some real tight driving if so. Could also be some dips in the road we can't see. Even so, it would take some power to keep those wheels off the ground for long.

Listed for sale about 7 weeks ago in the southern half of Florida, says Facebook.

Maybe he was real small. Even as a tall guy, I can ball up and get in the trunk, and that's already pretty close to some positions. Maybe it was owned by a contortionist couple with a kink for claustrophobic sex. Ha! What an image!

If that's the case then, all things considered, they did a pretty good job of it. I'm more understanding if they did it out of necessity, not aesthetics.

@HS30-H A clever and simple alternative. I'll keep this route in mind whenever the day comes to make one - thanks!

I really can't wrap my head around why someone would do do such a thing. No visibility, and no practicality. I think they might have been trying to make the z look like something it wasn't seeing as they changed the taillights, too. Or maybe they wanted privacy in the trunk for... sins. Sex or bootlegging, maybe.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/207830024528348/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0f775f97-ae3f-4ab3-847a-ae39c33c5061 "Pretty much complete original car" might be an overstatement, but at least he admitted it has rust! Got a kick outta this one!

Right on, thanks again! Where you get these great pictures is beyond me!

@HS30-H Great info, thanks! You seem to be an expert on these bumpers. Those pictures are extremely useful - amongst all the wishy-washy things I've read or seen, your pictures are by far the most concrete. The replica car even has some of the old rally rims, too! Nice touch! I was kinda unclear when I originally said something about 'where could I get one' because I said that meaning 'where could I get a replica' as finding an original would be, as you pointed out, very difficult (not to mention expensive if it was intact). That being said, from my understanding, to make a replica I'd be modifying a bumper more than making an entire new one from scratch, correct? Also, now that I am suspect of everything I thought I knew, it is true that the Monte Carlo bumper allows the hood to be opened regularly, right?

@psdenno Probably garage kept, climate controlled its whole life, too.

Some of the coolest looking z's I've ever seen are the old Rally z's, and the coolest among these was the one from Monte Carlo, in my opinion. I've been looking into getting some driving lights if not now, then somewhere down the road. However, there is one big problem - fitment. I've seen two other ways of fitting driving lights: A.) Putting them on the hood of the car like from the Safari Rally. B.) Similar to Monte Carlo by fitting them past the radiator, except mounting them on or behind what is best described as a brush guard. (I've also seen a third way where the lights are fixed on the roof of the car, or else a roof rack.) There is a certain sacrifice that needs to be made to get proper driving lights to fit - either you add something to mount them on (like the brush guard or a roof rack), or else you slap them somewhere on the body (like the Safari Rally). Now, I do like the way these two look, however they aren't something I'd want to do to my own z because they alter the basic silhouette of the car more than I would be willing to. The Monte Carlo Rally Z seems to be a perfect medium in my mind. It has the practicality of extra driving lights without changing the basic lines of the car too much. How the balance was struck by the Monte Carlo Rally Z is, from my understanding, owing to the front bumper - it's basically cut lower from OEM to allow driving lights while still allowing room for the hood to be opened fully. As far as I know, this was basically a one off thing for and only for rally z's (you couldn't get it at a Datsun dealership). Now, If I only wanted extra light, I could maybe put a lightbar across the stock bumper to not effect the hood's opening, but a light bar just doesn't have the same aesthetic as circular driving lights - in fact, a light bar would just be too contrasting to the old look of a z to me. To put it plain and blunt - the Monte Carlo Z looks badass as all Hell to me. So, my question is how one (me) could go about finding such a bumper, and/or what else ought to be kept in mind when installing that bumper, or installing/fitting the driving lights as well. I haven't found much information online surrounding this topic besides this thread, as well as a few one offs that mention the bumper or fitment. At the end of the day, I could probably get a replica fabricated (which I'm not above), but that's no good if I don't know precisely what ought to be fabricated.

https://zcardepot.com/collections/front-suspension/products/coil-spring-set-stock-and-lowered-240z-260z-280z?variant=21384265269361 Could be something. Don't know much about the springs, but I'm sure you could give the boys at zcardepot a call to find out.

Can't make it. I'm in the same boat as SteveJ - Colorado is real far away. What a shame, I don't like to think about it. It'd be nice to meet everybody in person, and also lose my mind over all the z's. Gosh! Why'd you have to bring it up?! Just when I'd started to move on, this thread got brought back! Oh well, maybe next year... Somebody let it loose going up Pikes Peak for me (but don't get too crazy)!

@siteunseen I recognize those rotors - you get them from MSA? I got a set, with the ceramic pads as well. Stops on a dime and only squeaks once a day! Looks sexy too...

So, maybe they are the new 911... in a way, at least. Not too long ago, I heard someone say something to the effect of, "Wow, look at that old Porsche!" about my z. Evidently that guy thought it was a 911!

Sexy. Did a great job!

Please, make a post/comment when you get this squared away with a video of how it sounds - I'm a sucker for the twice pipes sound! Especially a custom job like this!

As a Millennial/Gen-Z (born in 1998), the original draw to the s30 was it's classic look and history, but in the end, the main reason I bought it was the affordability, as Namerow said. Had the z been more expensive, it would have been unrealistically out of my price range. Buying parts for the car is relatively inexpensive, and so is the up front cost of the car itself. Slap in the ease of maintenance and repair, and it's a very practical car to buy as far as classics go. That being said, an old 911 is, coincidentally, my 'dream' car. However, to buy one and drive it with regularity would be painfully expensive and financially irresponsible, presuming I even had the money to buy one in the first place. But, if z's and 911's cost the same, I'd have gotten a 911. However, they don't so I didn't. Point is, a 911 is way too far outside my ages' price range, but a z isn't - with a little bit of saving and some vigilant searching, you can definitely find one. Put it this way, you can get a decent s30 for around or less than the price of a new car, so if you've got a knack for classics, it's a good option. Then, you can save up some more money and decide whether you want to buy a house... or a 911...

Hey, Keb Mo - I met that guy once! I knew the owner of the restaurant that catered their gig - real good blues player, and a nice guy too. gwri8 posted Wild Horses by the Stones, figured Wild Horses by the Flying Burrito Brothers would be a good listen too:

Came across this thread a while ago - hope it helps: Also, s30.org might be a resource, too. Though, I've never checked it out before.

Glad the tool worked for you! Consider yourself saved from a lot frustration, far too many cuss words, and several feet of wasted brake line! Makes it worth the extra $20-30 if you ask me. Again, here's to hoping you don't have to rebuild/replace your old booster - brake fluid's way cheaper.

Mike with the throwback memes! Last time I saw those, I was in middle school! Absolute classics.

I'm not an expert so take what I say with a grain of salt. That being said, I'd rebleed the brakes real careful like, as grannyknot said. Also, if you completely drained the master cyclinders before fitting the new lines, you may need to do a bench bleed. I don't really know what that entails as I've never done it, but I've read before that it's good form to do a bench bleed if you completely drain the cylinders, but it's especially applicable for new master cylinders. I completely drained my cylinders last time without a bench bleed and I turned out alright, though. If you're booster is failing, it should make the brake pedal stiffer, not softer (again, I'm no expert). Either way, you could block off the brake booster to isolate the problem to the brakes themselves - vice grip the brake booster's vacuum hose if you're not worried about potentially damaging it. In short; if I had to guess, there's just air somewhere in the brake system. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Fingers crossed you don't have to rebuild the booster! (PS: How'd the flaring tool treat you?)

I don't know how that white one sold for 16 grand. Far better ones have sold for the same price.