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When I said "The only problem with mass production and price reduction is it does'nt seem fare to those who just paid the current asking price of about $125." What I was saying is this; "If you just paid me $125 for a harness, then found out that you could have held out and only paid $100, You would most likely tell me that I was being unfair or unjust in my business practices." PLEASE understand that I personally DON'T like charging the $125 for the headlight harness but with all the stress that they caused me last time, I promissed my wife that I would'nt consider doing it again for anything less. Now that I have new suppliers, new process's of manufacturing, and a little more time on my hands, I then and only then decided to start making them again. I personally can not think of one single person who likes to work for pretty much nothing. And thats how I felt when I was charging $45 then $75 for the harness's. Now that I might be able to "mass produce them" on a small scale of lets say "ten at a time", It would be easier to bring the price down closer to what it was before I stopped making them. So my initial statement of "it doesn't seem fare" roughly meant that I feel bad offering it at a lower price to the new customers, when it was the recent customers that helped me get to this point. Thank you so much!! I've been waiting for these numbers for a long time. To go from 10+ amps thru 2 fuses, down to ..13A and .33A on just one fuse is exactly what I was trying to accomplish. Just imagine or better yet, do the math, If your headlight switches contacts are supposed to last for 20 years at 10 amps for five hours a day (Thats really over over doing it but you get my meaning) Imagine how long they'll last at only .33amps max current. By my math, at 10A for five hours is 50 amp hours (for example only and .33A max flow (with high beams) at 5 hours is only 1.65 amp hours!!! That's over 30 times less current flow thru your fuses and headlight switch. Juan, glad to hear that the custom pigtails I made for you, worked out for ya. This will obviously not last forever Enrique, I know this to be fact. and thats one of the reasons I was making per order. Cause you never know when it'll all come to a screaching halt. Thanks alot guys, I deeply appreciate all the good things you have to say, Much respect, Dave.

Thanks a lot guys!! That means alot to me. Hey, who knew that being a pick S.O.B. would come in handy one day? But if you think about it, Being picky is what got me a beautiful wife, a pretty cool car and terrific friends. Yes your right, the harness does seem a little pricey but in condideration of parts, labor, the fact that nobody else makes it and all the positive feedback I've recieved, it seems fair to me and all others who have bought the harness and written about it. I'm working on a way to mass produce them for less but it's harder than you think. It's the prep work that slows me down. I have actually decreased the build time by over an hour but it still takes a while to build each one by hand. The only problem with mass production and price reduction is it does'nt seem fare to those who just paid the current asking price of about $125. I'd like to reduce it to $100 or less but I would also have to be sure of orders before going that far. It has been suggested by another party to mass produce about 30 or so and sell them at a seriously reduced price to a Nissan dealer if they would take the deal. I'm still researching that and it's a tough one... Thanks for all your support and praise, it's what keeps me going. Dave.

I was P.M.'d with questions about the output "wire" that comes from the switch to the parking lights, dash and side markers. the pic. identifies the wire that is "usually" in question. That is also the wire I use in my relay harness. Feel smarter? I hope so, cause my fingers hurt from doing harness's all day, which makes it hard to type. Dave.

For hose of you who would like to know what the plug looks like before taking off the steering column cover, Here's a picture of the plug that comes from the headlight switch. The usual wire in question is the lifted one, It sits in the middle on the same side as the indentations (that only allow the plug to go in one way) it's green/blue stripe comes from the switch and into the plug then turns green/white on the other mating plug.

Hey JZM, As soon as my relays come in, I'll have some Parking light harness's for Z-Sport's Consignment Shelf. Dave.

I can consider it. Just e-mail me with the request and we'll go from there. Orders are on a two day delay at the moment (waiting for my relays to come in.) If I buy then at the store, they cost about $4-$5 each. If I wait a few days, They're only $1.25 each. Potter/Brumfeild relays aren't cheap but I prefer them.

O.K. great! But now that it's in, what were the results? Are your lights brighter? are your fuses getting as hot as they use to? How long did it take in total to put in the harness? How can I improve on it? Would you suggest it to a friend? These are the questions that most people who look at this, are going to want to know. The reason most people look at a forum is because they have or had a similar problem or can at least relate to the subject. The more answers we give (voluntarily) the less questions they will ask. So if you have installed any upgrade, whether it be from me, Motorsport Auto, the guy down the street or your own design, Let us know the "why's", "How's" testing and results!! Just remember that "Neccesity is the MOTHER of all Inventions" Dave.

Just keep us posted. when did you send the M.O. again? I like to keep track of these things. thank you very much. Dave

Don't worry bout it, Just don't let it happen again or the happy face gets it:stupid: :stupid: :stupid: Hey Will, I got the M.O. taday (Sat.) and i'll try to get it out to you on monday.

Once again, Arne took the words right out of my mouth. Even with a 200 amp alternator, you'll still be using 35 year old wiring and the power will still be going thru the old fusebox, switch and umteen feet of old wire. But actually, please do the comparison so we can hear about the results. I'd personally like to hear them, Good or bad. Dave. P.S. Will, I finally got your M.O. today (Saturday) I'll try to get that out to you on monday. Dave

Can anyone here give me info on the 260Z headlight switch plug??? 1) is it a 6-pin like the 240Z 2) if so are the wires similar to the 240Z's wire in the whole green/blue in, green/white out. if someone can tell me, a few more people (260Z owners) can join the family of night drivers. do they look any thing like this?.... or the right side plug on the 2nd picture?

WOW! that was impressive. Thank you for that and i'd have to say that you hit it right on the button when you spoke of suppliers, shipping, research, design, manufacturing and everything else. They are hard to make (3 hours) and it took me two weeks of searching to find all the right parts, suppliers and shipping methods. But thats where I figured that If I wanted one so bad, then everyone else must need the same thing, being as how most of us here have a 240Z or something similar. I really wish I could fing the black 260Z plugs and the white 280Z plugs. Those are my "needles in a haystack" I can't stand the thought of butchering some ones harness or even an OEM harness out of a wrecked Z. I'd prefer new for a new product. It's like putting Pinto Wheels on your brand new Mustang. it's just ugly. Dave

It just showed up today (friday) and I should be able to ship on Monday. Thanks for the check but I really prefer MONEY ORDERS.:classic: Thanks again. Dave

I love comments like this, Thank you. If you have received one of my harness's and have put it in the Z, please let everyone know how it went and what ya think. We'd love to hear about it, Dave.

I'll be making a big order today so I'm ready for the orders when they come in. I'll spend most of this week-end doiung prep work to keep up with you guys. Thanks for your orders and I'll try not to dissapoint, Dave.

If it's possible, I'm going to make a big order today,and I'll start prep on what ever I already have to fill these orders that are going to come in.

Chances are pretty good.

Thanks, that's a real nice compliment. Let me know how it goes. Dave.

That all depends on the plugs you have for the headlights in front of the radiator. Are they white square 3-pin 240Z style?

Here's a link to the headlight harness's that I'm making again. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?p=161987#post161987

here is a link to the headlight harness's that I am making again. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?p=161987#post161987

After much deliberation and pleading from members who either want more or never had a chance the last time, I am making the popular "Headlight Relay Upgrade Harness's again. There is only one catch. It's not as cheap as it used to be. Due to suppliers costs, fuel prices, my wifes sanity, and the fact that I no longer wish to work for my current employer (long story), the new price for the headlight harness is $125.00 inside the U.S. Outside the U.S. needs to contact me first be fore making a payment I appologize for those of you who think that this is too much but I'm sure that if you ask any one who bought one before, They'll tell you that this is a more than fair price for the work that I put into these. It in no way harms the 240Z and as a matter of fact, 1) It stops the fuses from overheating 2) Increases the voltage to the headlight to almost full battery voltage. 3) Saves your headlight and turnsignal switch from future damage due to over heating. 4) completely integrates into your 240Z without any cutting or drilling of any kind. 5) Your headlights will be brighter and allow you to upgrade to H4 headlights. I only take money orders for the $125.00 and they can be sent to me at .... David W. Irwin 5830 70th St NE. Marysville, WA. 98270 You can e-mail me at wolfin32z@yahoo.com or P.M. me at any time. I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Dave.

As mentioned earlier, I have a surpriZe for some of you. As of right now, I am taking orders for the "headlight relay upgrade harness" that I used to make. I'll write a new forum on the matter, so watch for it. Dave. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?p=161987#post161987

Site must be busy, It says that the "video is not available at the moment" I'll try later.

I figured that this would look better over on this forum. I knew that a 4 amp fuse would work but figured that a 5 amp was just as safe and would give a back up for any alternator burps. (surges) I'm on my way to ship Mr. Yarie's order off to canada and I may have a surprise for a few of you. Give me some time to figure it all out and i;ll write about it. Dave.