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I have been talking with Sal at MSA & they have redesigned the flanges on the headers & made some adjustments for fitting issues as well. They are working on the exhaust system drone as well. Their header primaries are 1 1/2".

Let me know what they say about the old stock. I have heard good things about the 1 1/2" Clifford research header.

Paint seems to have held up well. I think it is rated to 1800 F. I am not sure the ceramic coating is rated that high!

Jere Stahl emailed me that 1 3/8" would be fine for a stock 240Z. His company hasn't bent 1 3/8" since last year! Expects to do a run soon.

Don't seem to show the Z products anymore......

I'll let everyone know what Jere Stahl has to say once he gives me recommendations.

Sweet. Did you coat them or just use his normal finish?Do you have to do separate exhaust or can you go to one?

Thanks David. I saw your old car at the HPDE event at VIR this weekend. JT was there in your old Hybrid 240Z.

Thanks for the info guys. Keep it coming. Stahl is the only header mfg. that makes a 1 3/8" & 1 1/2" primary header as far as I know. Jere is going to get back to me on his recommendation. From what I am seeing the one point everyone agrees on is the Stahl is tops. Katman recommended a Stahl 1 3/8" or 1 1/2". David what does Mack's header look like? Is it one similar to what Sunbelt uses? How big are the primaries on it? Anyone here actually using a Stahl header?

I have emailed Jere Stahl and he will be back to me soon.

Arne you are correct about the car already having a header. Ron I emailed Les and he felt the Nissan was too much and that the Stahl was tops. He felt for a less costly solution go with a MSA coated header. What other type does he sell? Stahl builds a 1 3/8" & 1 1/2" model which is probably better sized for the stock motor.

I have done the search but I am still up in the air as to which header to buy. I need to replace the rusted header on my '71 240Z as well. The car's motor is stock & running the SU's. I have asked several knowledgable Z people and I have been given several opinions. 1) Price no object 1 3/8" or 1 1/2" Stahl header (Pretty much universally the best but it is $775 plus shipping) 2) 1 5/8" Nissan Motorsport header either chromed or unplated (ceramic coating extra) The opinions vary on whether the chrome will last or rust. I am leaning towards getting an unplated one and ceramic coating it. 3) MSA ceramic coated header (I have one of their coated headers + their aluminized exhaust system on my '78. Fitment was an issue and the drone a problem. Sal says they have improved their header design and are working on the drone.) I'd like opinions of those who are using the different brands. Especially anyone using the Nissan Motorsport header chrome or coated. Thanks!

I hate to dig up an old thread but I need to replace the rusted header on my '71 240Z as well. I have asked several knowledgable Z people and I have been given several opinions. 1) Price no object Stahl header (Pretty much universally the best but it is $775 plus ceramic coating) 2) 1 5/8" Nissan Motorsport header either chromed or unplated (ceramic coating extra) The opinions vary on whether the chrome will last or rust. I am leaning towards getting an unplated one and ceramic coating it. 3) MSA ceramic coated header (I have one of their coated headers + their aluminized exhaust system on my '78. Fitment was an issue and the drone a problem. Sal says they have improved their header design and are working on the drone.) I'd like opinions of those who are using the different brands. Especially anyone using the Nissan Motorsport header chrome or coated. Thanks!

Wow. Well done.

Hagerty requires a locked garage I believe.

Jon, Is the Nissan comp header you are referring to the 1 5/8" chromed header?

Just renewed my Hagerty policy today covering our '71 240Z @ $14K & the '78 280Z @ $15K for $363/year. I am in South Carolina.

I believe the #46 510 was on display at the Runoffs this year in Topeka.

No claims but I am happy with Hagerty's service.

TBK1, Is Shane painting the car?

Picked up my copy last night. Great job Ron. I hope to see the car on the east coast someday.

Our first S30 a '78 280Z was owned by a friend of my father in law. He was second owner of the car. We bought it to fix up for my son. I bought a 240Z later because of my interest in the S30. I don't think you can beat the looks of the basic S30 body whether it is a 70 or a 78. My well to do friends had 240Z/260Z's in high school 76-80. I always wanted one. The '78 280Z as it looks now.

Our '78 280Z came with those covers as well. I still have them somewhere. Running the Panasports now.

Check with Les at Classic Datsun when you get ready to buy Panasports. He gave me a good deal.

I bought a set for our '78 280Z from MSA but it has been a few years ago.