Actually Alan you are finally wrong about something. If a mirror is really close to you on the door, or futher away, on the front fender, doesnt make much difference. When looking in a mirror your focal point it not the distance of the mirror from the eye, but the distance from your eye, to the mirror, and then to to object you are looking at in the mirror. If there was an object 10 meters infront of you and and object 10 meters behind you, your eyes would not need to change focus much at all. Just to compensate for the extra distance between you and the mirror. So if the mirror was half a meter away you would be focusing on something that appeared futher away (10.5 meters). Its not like looking at the road ahead, then looking at you speedo. The advantage of fender mounted mirrors are not having to turn your head as much to look in the mirrors. and because they are further away you get a wider field of view, reducing the "blind spot" which is when theres is a car beside you, but you cant see it in the mirror because the field of view is too narrow to see it. KTELLER, those mirrors in the pic are Fairlady Z items. Ive seen those exact mirrors on a japanese 1978 fairlady Z (S30 style not 280zx).