Jeessshhh Wade, Can't believe there's nothing to learn here for you. I'm quite sure if you were there you would straighten out Chris with your master mechanic knowledge. I kind of like threads like this that make you think 'outside the box'. I think we have all experienced some kind of anomaly when it comes to mechanical issues. Yes, there are the basics, but Murphy's law is always hard at work. I remember chasing a spongy brake in a Mustang for weeks. It was frustrating beyond belief-I mean it's just a hydraulic system. In the end I reversed bled a front caliper that pushed the air BACK to the MC. Never experienced this before, and never again. By all regular methods I couldn't get rid of the air. In the end, it might turn out to be a basic element that Chris missed, or he has 2 things going on at once. This happens when you change several things at once. I think maybe you(WADE) are thinking you might not get the CDS award. If it's that frustrating for you-how bad do you think it is for Chris. Tune out if it bothers you that bad.