About three years ago, I rebuilt my suspension with new bushings, springs, dampers, and ball joints. I had heard that only Moog and Nissan ball joints are any good, but for some reason, I was in a rush and bought a set at the local import parts store. Normally, their parts are Beck Arnley and the quality is very good, so I bought them there rather than waiting for parts to be shipped from MSA. I installed them, but have never driven the car other than around the block once or twice in the last three years. Now, I'm trying to get the car on the road and while I had the car on jackstands doing some other work, I noticed weird play in the front wheel. I could move the tire a lot and hear a clunk. Hmmm, I crawled under the car and thought I could see the ball joint moving. I went to the other side and found the same thing. Since it was tough to move the wheel and see what was going on, I had my wife move the tire back and forth while I was under the car. Sure enough, the ball joint was moving up and down 2-3mm at the socket. WTF? Has anyone even seen a brand new ball joint with tons of play in it? Since it was over three years ago, I can't return them :tapemouth , so I guess I'll order a new set from MSA, but I was shocked at how much play they had. I removed the parts and they feel fine when moved by hand. As far as I know, there should be no vertical movement correct?