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Hey guys - before you go talking crap about someones car did you ever stop to think that they might be part of the Classic Z Car Club. Well, that is my car and my cherished baby and I can't believe all of the horrible comments you are all saying.... JUST KIDDING - - what a mess!

To close the loop on this thread for others' benefit here is a pic of the fuel lines now that the covering is removed and they are fairly clean. I used mineral spirits and in some cases 400 grit sandpaper to clean the lines. What I thought were deteriorated rubber hoses was actually some sort of molded on rubber type material that encased the lines. It came off in pieces. I have driven the car twice for about 20 min each with no hint of vapor lock problems. Outdoor temps were around 70F. D

That aint the one. That's our old buddy trying again....

Are there any pix out there?

Gee...thanks Beandip. That was helpful. Clearly I am in a panic.

Well, I just removed the covering (taking all appropriate precautions). The first picture is what it looked like inside the covering. Under the fabric looking silver cover the fuel lines are wrapped in some sort of metal foil (picture 2). Under the silver foil it appears the metal fuel lines were covered with rubber lines that have seriously melted or rotted. They are generally crumbly and sticky and I need to remove them next. Ultimately I will get to the metal fuel lines and hopefully clean them up. (pics 3 and 4) Questions: Were these fuel lines originally covered with rubber? (BTW - I should note that my engine, based on the serial #, is from a 1974 260Z. The carbs and fuel system are not so I dont know if these lines are from the 1970 engine or the replacement). Assuming I can remove all of the deteriorated rubber it appears the lines below are stained brown from toasted rubber. Any pointers on how to clean? Thanks......................

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I have no idea why this is installed on my 1970 Z. I came that way and I have left it on there because I wasnt sure it was necessary..... I am not sure it is asbestos. I have seen mentions in other threads that call it asbestos so I assumed it was true. Regardless I appreciate the advice and concern and I will take all appropriate measures when I remove. I dont want lung cancer any more than anyone else! As far as vapor lock I do live in AZ but I have no A/C so I don't plan to drive when it is more than 85 degrees or so and I typically only drive short distances to the local car show or to dinner or something...I hope that means I'll be OK. We'll see..... While we are on this thread and my engine is pictured in the first post - can someone take a look at the piece of duct tape with tie wrap that is over the vent on my air filter housing? Obviously that is not standard equipment. Does that hole need to be plugged or can I remove that ugly tape? If it needs plugging how do other people do it? Thanks....

Alternately - where would one find a new, less damaged looking replacement?

I am wondering if the ugly silver asbestos wrapped around my fuel lines as pictured is really necessary? I have been told by some that it is not needed and I'd like to get rid of it. If you look at the 2nd picture I've attached of a pristine engine it is not there. Then again, why would it be there in the first place if there wasnt a reason? I've searched the threads and cant find any discussion on this. Thoughts?

My wife and I have nicknamed my Z Car Yoko. She is a Japanese lady who could drive a wedge between us and split us up if I involve her too much in our lives.......

Scan anyone?

This sums up my feelings of one of the biggest rip off B.S. scam jobs I've ever seen By Skip Bayless Page 2 DETROIT -- Dear Seahawks fans: I've been tough on your team the last few weeks. I've called your club the Sea Frauds and said they didn't belong in a Super Bowl. After watching Sunday night's game, I believe that more than ever. But, as I've also written, your team was blessed all the way to Detroit. This was the first Super Bowl that found itself with two Cinderella stories. These Steelers, the AFC's bottom seed, weren't exactly Terry Bradshaw's Steelers of the late '70s. But although these Steelers were favored by 4 -- and although I picked them 24-14 -- I'm not sure they deserved to win this game. And after spending a week in Detroit, I thought the city had cleaned up most of its crime. The first-quarter offensive pass interference called on Darrell Jackson that turned a touchdown into a field goal was robbery enough. But the fourth-quarter holding call on Sean Locklear made you wonder whether the refs had even less of Aretha's r-e-s-p-E-c-t for your Seahawks than I do. At that point, your guys had overcome enough mistakes to get blown out in most Super Bowls. In fact, this one had nearly gotten out of hand midway through the third quarter, when the Steelers drove to a first-and-10 at your 11-yard line with a 14-3 lead. But on third-and-6 from the 7, Ben Roethlisberger tossed a throw into the flat that cost him the MVP award and nearly caused coach Bill Cowher's head to explode. It was, of course, picked off by backup cornerback Kelly Herndon and returned 76 yards. Matt Hasselbeck's 16-yard touchdown fling to Jerramy Stevens rather shockingly turned what looked like a 21-3 game into a 14-10 margin. And suddenly your Seahawks were going to Motown. Momentum Town. The Seahawks forced another Pittsburgh punt, and here they came again. Hasselbeck still makes me nervous because he always looks as if he's running a frantic two-minute offense. But the biggest surprise of this game was how much time Walter Jones and Co. were giving him to throw. Blitzburg, schmitzburg. Your guys had continually knocked the bullies back on their heels and turned down the volume of a Ford Field crowd that looked and sounded more like a Heinz Field crowd. Joey Porter, the loudest Steeler, was having the quietest game. And on first-and-10 at the Steelers' 19, Hasselbeck had enough time to listen to Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' "Second that Emotion" before firing another strike to Porter's favorite pregame target -- Stevens. Eighteen-yard completion! First-and-goal at the 2! Seattle about to take a 17-14 lead! I could almost hear Mount Rainier erupting. But on this night, the Steelers had their own version of your 12th Man. He wore a striped shirt and a whistle. He threw a flag. And Locklear went down in Seahawks history. Way down. Until the week before the NFC Championship Game, I barely knew who Locklear was. But he made national news by being charged with domestic violence after an incident with his girlfriend outside a Seattle nightclub. He did a couple of nights in jail, but coach Mike Holmgren allowed him to play pending his Feb. 13 hearing. Now Locklear will be forever remembered in your fair city for an entirely different reason. Holding, No. 75! On the replay, I couldn't see Locklear do anything different from what most linemen do on every play. These days, you have to tackle to hold, and Locklear didn't tackle. Phantom, killer penalty. Your guys wound up in a third-and-18, and Hasselbeck cut loose one of his mystery balls that Ike Taylor intercepted, as he should have in the first quarter. Worse, Hasselbeck was wrongly flagged for a below-the-waist block when he was trying to make the tackle. Hasselbeck was punished 15 more yards. At that point, your guys seemed to be hanging their heads as if they had decided the NFL just couldn't live with them winning its showcase game. Moments later, it took another Pittsburgh trick play -- a reverse pass by Antwaan Randle El to Hines Ward for a 43-yard touchdown -- to basically ice the game on a snowy night. That made it 21-10, and that's the way it stayed. Too bad your Seahawks didn't have Porter in their postgame locker room. Had he been a Seahawk, he surely would have filled tapes and notebooks telling the media how the refs stole the game. Jackson definitely gave Steelers safety Chris Hope a little push. But it didn't give Jackson enough of an advantage to prompt a penalty. The ref called it only after Hope turned and begged for it. That cost your team four points, a little momentum and a little more psychological edge. The Pittsburgh offense isn't built to come from behind or to win a shootout. A 7-0 Seattle lead would have tightened the Steelers' throats more than 3-0 would have. The holding call on Locklear clearly cost your Seahawks seven more points. Four plus seven equals 11 -- Pittsburgh's margin of victory. And who knows how the Steelers would have responded if they had suddenly found themselves behind early in the fourth quarter? No, I haven't yet mentioned Roethlisberger's dive for the goal line that was ruled a touchdown late in the first half -- and upheld after a replay review. To me, it looked as if the nose of the ball barely crossed the white line while Roethlisberger was airborne. Either way, it was so close that it was inconclusive and didn't warrant a touchdown reversal. Besides, the odds were that Pittsburgh could have scored on fourth-and-inches. Then again, Cowher can be so conservative that he might have opted for the field goal that would have only tied the score 3-3. The Jackson play, the Roethlisberger play, the Locklear play -- as the Rolling Stones sang in their halftime finale, you couldn't get no satisfaction, Seahawks fans. Your team had only one turnover to Pittsburgh's two … and your team lost. Your team held Roethlisberger to a 9-for-21 night for only 123 yards, with two interceptions … and your team lost. Your Shaun Alexander surprised me by running for almost 100 yards (95 on 25 carries) … and your team lost. Your offense had almost 400 yards (396) against that vaunted Steelers defense … and your team lost. In the end, it lost because of two bad calls and because Pittsburgh simply made three or four more good plays. The Steelers converted 8 of 15 third downs to your 5 of 17. Too many drops and near-TD catches, too many off-target flings by Hasselbeck at crucial times, too much high-schoolish clock management by the quarterback and coach at the end of the half and game. I'm sorry, I still don't think he's a top-echelon quarterback. Then again, I'm not convinced Roethlisberger is the next Elway. The play he made that salvaged a first-half lead for the Steelers -- the scramble left and deep heave from barely behind the line of scrimmage -- should have been batted down or even intercepted by your safety Michael Boulware. Instead, Boulware made a poor play on the ball and Ward caught it. On Randle El's trick touchdown pass -- Pittsburgh's best pass of the night -- your cornerback Marcus Trufant took a bad angle and ran underneath it. So two bad plays by your defensive backs helped Ward -- who had dropped two passes, including one that should have been a touchdown -- win the MVP award. Oh, well, it was the kind of game that should have been played in Week 9. The Steelers didn't have one player on offense or defense who was clearly the difference maker. Your Seahawks lost this game a little more than Pittsburgh won it. Your defense battled its guts out and mostly stuffed Pittsburgh's run. But one breakdown allowed Willie Parker to escape untouched for a 75-yard TD. You can't overcome mistakes like that in a game like this. But, no, you can't overcome 11 lost points worth of penalties, either. On this night, you belonged in the Super Bowl as much as Pittsburgh did, for what that's worth. On this night, the only frauds wore stripes.

I just got these on EBay thinking they were for one thing but I was wrong. Where are the relays that these cover? Thanks....

I am in this very predicament. I bought was was titled as HLS3003137. A nice low # 70 Z. When it arrived I discovered that the door jamb VIN plate was removed, as was the engine compartment VIN plate. The dash VIN was the 3137 # but the firewall is stamped HLS3014160. I don't think anyone removes those VIN plates unless there is some funny business going on. MY car has a 260Z engine. Otherwise it is mostly original stuff to a 1970/71 car and is a beauty (at least to me). So what happens? For me, the state of Arizona had to do a level 3 inspection and issue a state issued VIN #. They put a state sticker on the door jamb to ID the car. I was finally able to get it titled and registered as a result. So.....my low VIN find won't be as collectible as a perfect documented papered low VIN Z car but I dont really care because all I want to do it work on it and enjoy it. I still know when it was born from the firewall VIN...... What's odd is that the 2 prior owners passed inspection with the wrong VIN using just the dashboard VIN. If I wanted to be sneaky I could have gone to Banzai motor works and used those titles to get replacement door and engine VIN plates made to pass state inspection. Then I could trick a non expert who didnt know about the firewall. I couldnt sleep at night doing that but I'm sure it happens all the time.....

Agreed - even though it is a smallish car - I am fully stretched out in my Z and I am 6'0. You should have no problems...

Wow.....shitty

duffman - please let me know what you find out. I assume you'll ask Gary at Spanky's. I have the same problem with my 1970 - over about 60 MPH it gets a bit wobbly so my top speed where I feel safe is 65 to 70. My first Z was a 1972 and I had that up to 120 with no problems. Derek

I have a similar question. My chrome is fine but the rubber is shot. Where would one get just replacement rubber (and hopefully save some $$)?

Duffman? Got the car back yet? Any pictures yet?

You don't need a test according to their website at: http://www.vehicletest.state.ma.us/generalinfo.html#exemptions Here is what it says: Are any vehicles exempt from the Enhanced Emissions Safety Test? Every vehicle must be brought in for a safety test every year. However, model year 1983 and older vehicles will not be required to have emissions tests. New cars will be exempt for their first two years. I can't find any description of what the safety test is but usually it includes stuff like headlights, brake lights, turn signals, mirrors, etc....Basic stuff. I just did a google search to get the answer and I live in Arizona so you might double check this.....

Try this: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15466&highlight=fumes

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/6/8/81869968.htm There is only one picture posted so who knows what the details look like but for $1500 I'd say it could be a steal.....

Just saw the newly added pix to the gallery. I wish I knew what it felt like to have all of the engine and suspension parts be new and clean like that. Some day.......

How bout some pics of the finished product? Looks sweet but I wanna see it all put together..