TomoHawk Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share #25 Posted January 17, 2005 I dunno how long it took to develop the thing. I heard about it in 1990, then tried to buy one in 1993,when I orderd my GTO stuff, and then the salesman told me they stopped making them. That makes 3 years.Unfortunately, The biggest problem was that it didn't catch on like you would think. It's such a different idea that it would take a while. That part you got right.Many NEW ideas take a while, like paddle shifters. I'm not hot for those myself. Nor do many cars have them( I can think of 3), so why do they bother offering them in cars? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted January 17, 2005 Share #26 Posted January 17, 2005 .. i have an automatic.. just convert to a MANUAL!!! jeesh.. or go all out and by a sequential transmission with paddle's or something Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchovisa Posted January 17, 2005 Share #27 Posted January 17, 2005 Point people are making is "WE" don't need or want this, YOU do. So get going on it, you said you have worked on it for a long time, take your plans to B&M and tell them about how many automatic owners want to be stick shifty wannabes.PS It was dog leg, not log leg. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share #28 Posted January 17, 2005 I have a notebook full of ideas on the subject. Not having machining tools & stuff means I gotta get somebody else to do it. Nor am I a shifter engineer. My specialty is Chemistry, so I'm be better at designing a new metal for the shifter, or a new paint.And like I said, I can't use a manual-shift transmission. And, AFAIK, you can't get a sequential transmission to to fit the L28 engine. It would be easier & cheaper to just change the shifter.It's not a question of being a manual shift wannabe! It's just a different kind of sporty shifter! How many people haft 'short-throw shifters?' By your logic, you don't need that, do you?Pancho- Sorry, typo. My fingers are tired & tangled. What's a dog-leg shift pattern?thx Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchovisa Posted January 17, 2005 Share #29 Posted January 17, 2005 Hope the ideas are more lucid that what you have shared here. Like most of your ideas it requires someone else to make it happen.I'm sure they have people that can read and understand any real plans you show them. Market analisys from "Ark #2" I'm not so sure of. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted January 17, 2005 Share #30 Posted January 17, 2005 They just need to fix the problem so they can get it (certified for competition). Same thing they "just" needed to do in 1993, but chose not to do! FOR A REASON that made sense to themselves. Many NEW ideas take a while........ Unforunately, time is AGAINST this idea. The S30's are on average 30 years old. Less and less of them remain as every year goes by.(same for old Maxima's as well) In 1990 (or 1993) B&M chose to not "fix" their problem and scrapped the idea. Why would they revive it 12+ years later? Because there are more S30's around now? Because it's MORE economicly feasible to resolve now? ...............like paddle shifters. I'm not hot for those myself. Nor do many cars have them( I can think of 3), so why do they bother offering them in cars? 1. Because the "super cars" that have paddle shift are capable of far higher performance than our cars. 2. Because the people who by these toys WANT the latest bells and whistles that modern technology has to offer (AND, they can afford to pay what it costs to engineer these things.) PS they are computer controlled and shift in miliseconds. Try to adapt THAT technology to a 78 automatic transmission Z car. But Hey, Give it a shot. Let us know when they turn out the lights in Fantasyland. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted January 17, 2005 Share #31 Posted January 17, 2005 actually a 240SX transmission can mat to an L series engine with minor mods...and they do make sequential trannies for 240SX's.... So.. you can put a 6 speed sequential tranny into a Z car... and a light mod to the bell housing and driveshaft, it bolts right in... almost. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share #32 Posted January 17, 2005 they are computer controlled and shift in miliseconds. Try to adapt THAT technology to a 78 automatic transmission Z car.I wouldn't want to do that. I think the transmission shifts just fine as is. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted January 17, 2005 Share #33 Posted January 17, 2005 I wouldn't want to do that. I think the transmission shifts just fine as is.So what is the whole point of this thread again? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-108998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share #34 Posted January 17, 2005 We should get B&M to make a period-looking automatic transmission shifter to use on the S30 cars. I prefer one with the horizontal H-gate. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-109003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOxLaMuS© Posted January 17, 2005 Share #35 Posted January 17, 2005 i don't think any car company has the ability to do that with an automatic... I think your wishes are too extreme... But if they do!.. let me know! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-109007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instigator Posted January 17, 2005 Share #36 Posted January 17, 2005 RICE?Adding a period-looking shifter doesn't sound like rice to me, and it would definitely be cool for us with the automatic trannies, and would be as functional as aesthetic. Like I said, it would make the auto-shift cars look like the manual-shift ones, from the driver's seat.Doesn't sound like rice? What? I bet you like those spinner hubcaps too, huh? Dude, just go out and buy yourself a Honda, there's so much fake stuff out there for those cars already.Oh, and I can't believe you're going to leave your console hacked up like that! But it's your car... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/14672-bm-wants-to-borrow-your-car/?page=3#findComment-109016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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