Britsh Tourist Kills locals and a Zed.

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Well now Steve,

I've always reckoned that when the big "G" upstairs calls your name out then you've got no choice in the matter mate, .... you just GO.

If mankind ... er, .... womankind .... er, ......PERSONkind, (g'day Vicki), chose not to do something because of what MIGHT happen, men would still be romancing their women with a ten pound club and dragging them back to their cave (heads first of course) to meet their mother. Then the famous ZED would never have been designed and built and I wouldn't have bought one and met a great bunch of blokes like you lot. And it would have been YOUR FAULT.

Rick.

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[lonetreesteve]

Rick,

I use to drive my first 240z everywhere (a '72) when I was in college and single. I have a family now, with a wife and 4 kids and I have to be more responsible and not so care-free. I hear what your saying, but I now wear a helmet when I ski, I no longer ride motorcycles and I won't drive my 240Z or any other death trap on a busy highway. There's far too many big SUVs here in the Denver area and way too many people on the highways compared to when I use to drive my first Z over 20 years ago!

Steve

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Steve, .. I know exactly what you mean mate.

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of us mouldy oldies have been there, .... done that.

When we started our family I sold my bike, the second love of my life, and bought an old car for to and fro from work 'cause of the added protection it afforded in the event of an accident.

About ten years ago, a mate of mine was killed whilst driving at 60kph, (around 37mph). A 4wd got him.

One of my favorite sayings is that, 4wd's are like heads ........... seems like everyone's got one. Darned things should be confined to the country and banned from the cities and suburbs.

Rick.

[NZeder]

Steve, Rick,

Sold the bike last year when I became a dad for the first time - miss it but I now instead of going for a ride I spend time with my son. Did I do it because they are not safe - hell no if I thought like that I would never have got into bikes in the first place. I would still have it today if I had the time - the usual story bike sold so we could get a station wagon/hatchback. No 4wd though - I don't like the idea/mentality its bigger must be safer (even though I live in the country and a 4wd would be hand for the farm I just don't buy the whole SUV scam - there are next to no 4wd in my neighbourhood and we all live on unsealed roads - however when I drive to work in the city all I see is f'n 4wd's what's up with that?)

It is like all these new cars with 8 airbags, ABS, traction control etc. Why? Are they safer? Yes but this is not the cause of the accidents, it is the drivers. Why should we as consumer have to buy into the new safer SUV etc mentality when even an old car is safe if it is never in an accident. All these systems only cause problems I have a new 2003 company car with all these things and the next service (this week) I will be having the side airbags fixed for the forth time. I would hate to own it myself in a few years when it is not under a warranty.

Here in NZ a number of year ago there was a level crossing accident ever few months (level crossing = train crossing - unmarked ie no bell or lights). Hell if these drivers can't see something a big as a train what chance do you and I have in any car/bike. So education is the key to reducing road tolls not safer cars.

Don't know about you guys but I don't buy a car to crash it. However there are idiots out there (usually with no insurance and car that is not fit for the road).

So I will continue to drive my old 70's cars even if they are not as safe as the newer cars - why because they have character, a sole and they need to be driven.

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Hey, Mike the NZeder,

The big problem with blokes who get their driving capabilities mixed up with their possibilities is that they're allowed to breed.

A recent study, (in America I think), showed that kids mimic their parents driving habits, i.e. son copies dad, daughter copies mum.

Rick.

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[GunnerRob]

This may have something to do with this problem.

It's a bit long but well worth the time.

Montana - No Speed Limit Safety Paradox - 2001 UPDATE.zip

[dogma420]

Geeze Guys,

Talk about a lot of p****-talk on here! Like this is the first accident a 240z has ever been in....you as a good driver is the most important thing. If you won't drive your Z as you would a normal car, why do you have it? Would nobody here drive an old Shelby Cobra on the highway? I'd say that's just about as bad.

Driving a Z has always been like driving a motorcycle...you have to be defensive, but then again that's good for anytime you're driving anything.

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dogma 420.

G'Day Dave,

I mentioned earlier that I'll still take my Zed out on the highway. But then, I'm an old fart. The wife and I are back to where we started ........just the two of us, retired and enjoying life. I had a bit of fun with Steve with the caveman bit but I take my hat off to him for his decision to not drive his Zed on the highway, depriving himself of that pleasure for the reasons he stated.

I certainly would not say it was "p**** Talk".

Rick.

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[dogma420]

Yeah, you're right...I had a chip on my shoulder about something else...

I was just trying to state--driving defensive helps a lot--might not mean anything on a blind head on, and the Zed might not have the crumble zones like a modern car, but I concur that you have to drive very defensive in a z, they are very hard to see for other drivers (esp ones driving tanks...err SUVs)....

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Dave,

I hate 4wd's in the burbs and the city. It's bad enough in a normal sized car ... look out the dvrs window and see a bloody great bull bar bearing down on you but in a Zed, .... man, your looking at the diff.

Rick.

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