Need a 32k Orig. Mile 70 240Z?

[moonpup]

Well then.....here ya go!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Z-Series-1970-Datsun-240Z_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6187QQihZ006QQitemZ160018976402QQrdZ1

[Ed]

I don't get it. You have a nice car and your selling it. WHY don't you clean it before you take the pictures and make the car more presentable. Even though this car claims to have only 32k she looks more like 132K. Rode hard and put away wet. I'd like to see some better shots of the engine bay and the underneath area.

[=Enigma=]

Second owner, New England, 32,000 original miles= no rust..... ROFL ROFL

Stranger things have happened I suppose.

[moonpup]

Well it does still have the seatbelt clips on the seats...:eek:

[Curtis 240]

If you got it for a good price it would be worth it.

[hls30.com]

I guess that's not rust under the rear bumper...and in the seam above the rear bumper, and in the hatch shelf..and on the DS dogleg...Ds rear fender...

Must have been a hell of a 32K miles...

No shots of the problems areas.

One picture shows a bent up battery access door-but none of the others do

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Still, worth a closer look...

WIll

[ChrisA]

That's about 50 miles from me. I guess I'll try and go see it.

Its in NEbraska not NEw England by the way. 402 area code numbers in the auction prove its Nebraska.

I'm going to call the guy and get a VIN number and try and arrange a meet.

I will try and get more pictures.

Chris A.

[MikeW]

WHY don't you clean it before you take the pictures and make the car more presentable.

It looks to me like the pictures were actually taken at the car wash.

[Carl Beck]

This is one of those 240-Z's that is really a "between" car. It isn't really low enough mileage to be close to the "Collector" market and it's overall condition shows that.

On the other hand it really isn't the ideal car to start a full restoration on because it's actually too nice and therefore the selling price (if it sells) will be placed too high by the seller.

So what or who will actually buy this car? Well if it checks out to be truly rust free as far as the floorboards and frame rails go... it "might sell" to someone looking for a car they can drive now, and fix up as they go along.... The problem there is that buyers with that approach in mind... really don't expect to pay $10K+ for a nice driver...

The error in thinking (if you can call it that)... that this seller and most likely prospective buyers will make - is to place too much importance on the stated mileage. It very well may be 32K actual miles.. but in this case it is only One thing to consider... and really not the most important thing. While 32K miles is certainly "low mileage" - the car is still 36 years old.. and not having been driven daily/weekly/monthly by the owner - it has most likely been badly neglected as far as keeping it fully "road ready"...

32K mile or 132K miles... the new owner will still need shocks, brake lines, fuel lines and vapor lines, coolant lines/hoses, new weather stripping on the rear deck, new battery, etc. etc etc. The seats will still need to be rebuilt to proved any amount of support. The engine compartment will still need a lot of elbow grease and detailing...

The car will need a new hood as that one on it now is bent on the nose.. the new paint on the new hood will never match the rest of the car... The front bumper is dented as well.

To buy this car and end up with a 240-Z that is really road ready and very presentable... the future buyer will wind up putting another $5K to $7K into it....

The bottom line is - 32K original miles in this case doesn't relate to added value... it actually detracts from the value of the car.

A couple of friends have 71 Z's with right at 100K original miles - and both cars are in far better condition than the one on e-bay. Both cars were driven by their previous owner quite often, and both were maintained in proper "road ready" condition... For $10K I'd take either of their cars with 100K miles over this one with 32K miles..

Just my thoughts...

FWIW,

Carl B.

[jmark]

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[ChrisA]

Okay,

I called the guy, he just called me back.

First: He knows Burt Diamond who is a member here (cardogman1).

We all know about Burt's car and his views on Z cars. Burt has told this guy Mike what this car is potentially worth. (In Burt's opinion).

The serial number is 6375 with a build date of 6 of 1970.

The owner traded a boat and $1250 for the car a couple years ago. It has been garaged and tarped most of its life he told me.

He said repeatedly in our conversation that the car is "really nice". No major body rot that he can see. Talked about the floor boards looking good and still painted yellow. Jute material still intact. Original spare tire still in back.

Said when you open the hood and look down along the frame rails that there is no damage or rust and its still painted yellow.

He did mention that his pictures werent really that good. Said paint is faded and oxidized but would buff out. Claims he owns two detail shops so he left the car as is to not deceive anyone.

He knows the car has a few little problems. But again, overall he thinks its a really nice car.

He has gotten lots of calls and questions and is sure he will sell the car.

I told him I'd buy it outside of eBay and he wants NO LESS THAN $8,000 for it. This is what Burt and some other guy told him it was worth.

He drove it from Fremont Nebraska into Omaha today and said it ran great.

I'm trying to find time Saturday to go look at it.

FWIW,

Chris A.

[Carl Beck]

Hi Chris:

Well that's encouraging news... If the car is solid - it's well worth the $8K number today. I'm amazed that cardogman1 didn't tell him it was worth $15K...

I honestly expected a bottom price something closer to $10K..

$8K might be a little higher than one would want to go - for the basis of a complete and correct restoration - but personally I'd spend the extra few thousand to have a nice car to start with... it sure makes the process of restoration a lot more pleasant over the following couple of years..

thanks for the feedback...

regards,

Carl B.