justaZcarguy Posted April 18, 2007 Share #1 Posted April 18, 2007 Well it is starting to look like the next two weekends are the weekends to do the Diffy swap and the Spindle pin pull and redo the bushings.Those bushings are wore out, you can actually move the drivers side wheel to and fro by hand with the car on the ground. Fun.Think that is the cause of the car doing the changing direction from the rear unpon accel / decel, eh?Anyway, anyone know the part number and best place to obtain the pin bushings?Appreciate it... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
twsutt Posted April 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted April 18, 2007 If you go with polyurethane bushings the best prices that I've found on Energy Suspensions brand bushings are at Summit Racing. May I suggest contacting Gary (a.k.a. "Beandip") to borrow his spindle pin puller if your spindle pin gives you any trouble. I used it and it was a lifesaver. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted April 19, 2007 Share #3 Posted April 19, 2007 After you purchase the ES bushings, I would measure the ID of the inner sleeve. I've found in several cases for this dimension to be .010" larger than the OD of the spindle pin (others have reported the same issue). What this means is the nuts that tighten this inner sleeve against the strut pin boss is the only thing keeping the bushing from moving around under torque. With two of these gaps spaced approximately 7" apart, I could see where you may be in the same situation again. On the bright side, I've also heard of inner sleeves that fit snuggly on the spindle pin. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaZcarguy Posted April 19, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted April 19, 2007 Is there a solution to that?The last thing is the same result here...By the way, thanks for the help!~Brian Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted April 19, 2007 Share #5 Posted April 19, 2007 I did not get any response when I attempted this, but I have heard of others that successfully contacted ES about the issue and recieved the "good" sleeves that fit correctly. My intended fix at this poiint was to separate the OEM inner sleeve and insert it into a widened hole in the ES bushing. Eventually (because of the extreme tightness of these bushings - they must be sqeezed tightly in order for the assembly to completed) I instead chose to modify the control arm and use 3/4" heim joints to reduce stiction in the suspension. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenZZZ Posted April 19, 2007 Share #6 Posted April 19, 2007 I'm looking at finally re-bushing my rear end suspension. I've had the parts around, just need the puller. After reading this, I pulled out the parts (I have new spindles) and it looks like I have the reverse problem, the sleeves are too narrow. The spindle measures at 0.628" OD and the sleeves are measuring between 0.626" and 0.627". Is .002" diameter something that will stretch when hammered on with a socket used as a drift or should I call ES. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted April 19, 2007 Share #7 Posted April 19, 2007 When I removed my spindle pins, It took the machine shop 34,000 pounds to get the pins out. I've always wondered just what Garys Puller can do to make up that kind of pressure. Or even better, a picture and description of Gary's unit would help us "Mechanically minded" people get a better understanding of "How it Works"A picture is worth a thousand words, cause 1000 words still would'nt help till I see it first hand. Ya know?Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenZZZ Posted April 19, 2007 Share #8 Posted April 19, 2007 its off the IZCC stuff...http://zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/SpindlePinTool.htm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted April 19, 2007 Share #9 Posted April 19, 2007 See there, NOW I UNDERSTAND totally! Thanks and now it's locked into my "Favorites" for easy access. Kinda like a short short skirt. I LOVE short skirts on a long legged woman. Had to throw that last part in there. Did I mention that I lOVE short skirts!! Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenZZZ Posted April 19, 2007 Share #10 Posted April 19, 2007 I went to a ZZtop show last week. Could have swore I heard Billy Gibbons say "She's got a spindle puller, she knows how to use them..." Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted April 19, 2007 Share #11 Posted April 19, 2007 Is .002" diameter something that will stretch when hammered on with a socket used as a drift or should I call ES.I would consider heating the sleeve and see if it would slip into the bushing and onto the pin. I would be a bit combersome with all of the lower arm assembly put together though. Sounds like ES has some quality control issues. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenZZZ Posted April 19, 2007 Share #12 Posted April 19, 2007 At 425 degrees F it goes on tight with some tapping. 325 degrees F it doesn't. Alot of polyurethane starts to melt in the mid to low 300's so I placed a call into Energy Suspension. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/24009-spindle-pin-bushings/#findComment-206623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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