Arne Posted November 22, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 22, 2007 As before with the ZX alternator adapter, Dave Irwin and I have come up with a new wiring product for 240Zs. This one is a safety and visibility improvement. It is - as was the alternator plug before it - simple, affordable, and 100% reversible.The addition of a pair of these adapters will convert a 240Z's front sidemarkers into dual function lights. Once installed, the markers will flash in sync with the signals if the parking lights are off, and opposite if the parking lights are on. The way they work is shown in the movie linked here:http://video.classiczcars.com/user_video_detail.php?mId=2315The theory is not complex, and wouldn't be tough to do with wire taps and crimp connectors, if you wanted. Instructions to do it that way are on the web in several places. But again -- like the alternator adapter before it -- I designed this to require no modifications or changes to the factory wiring. Totally plug in. Clean, simple, and 100% reversible.This is not new technology, millions of GM cars and trucks built in the '70s did this exact thing for the front sidemarkers. Having the front markers flash really increases the visibility of your turn signals. Even though the turn signals on a 240Z wrap around the corner of the car, they are very low to the ground, even on stock height cars like mine. The flashing sidemarkers are much more visible.Here is Dave's description:I've discussed it with Arne and here's what we have decided to do. The SCP is TOTALLY Arnes's Brainchild. He may not be the inventor as I've seen it done elsewhere but It was Arne who got with me and discussed a prototype strictly for the 240Z's.The New Product is called the SCP which is short for Sidemarker Conversion Plug. It consist of 2) "T" type harness's that are only about 2.5" long and are placed into your parking light plug (in front of the radiator) via OEM style Datsun Plugs, just like my Headlight Upgrade Harness and there is one SCP per side. One for the left sidemarker and one for the right sidemarker.The SCP order will consist of 2) conversion plugs, one per side, and a single wire per SCP with a female bullet connector that connects into one of 2 the sidemarker wires located near each parking light plug, on each side..This is an easy instal and takes less than 10 minutes. The only thing that will slow you down is dirty wires and the lack of being able to see what color your sidemarker wires are. Other than that, it's a breeze to instal.The important part of the instal is making sure that each of your sidemarkers must be isolated from the body. As Arne mentioned earlier, "They will only work on 240Zs with normal bulbs (not LEDs), and the sidemarker housing MUST be properly insulated from the fender. So the metal reflector must be inserted into the groove in the big rubber base gasket, not mounted between the gasket and the body (as I've seen done on some cars)"The price is $25 I will be making them for Arne and paying him from the money I recieve from the orders. But your cash, check or money order needs to be sent to me along with the order. I DO NOT AND CANNOT ACCEPT PAYPAL. Canadian orders, please add $5 to the $25 price. All other orders outside the continental US, please email me first.Please Email me with your questions and for ordering info. For all those who have ordered a Headlight or Parking light Upgrade harness or even a ZXP (Arnes other baby) or any of my other upgrades or services, the address is still the same, the form of payment is the same and the orders will be send Via USPS First Class Mail. First class will be used in order to keep prices down. If you would like your order shipped using Priority mail, there will be another $5 added to the $25 price.I've also decided on a $2 discount for each order of 2 or more. (2 orders will be $46, 3 orders will be $69, etc, etc.) Please Keep in mind that not only do these add the "Cool factor" but will seriously increase the SAFETY Factor while being used. Drivers to your left and right WILL see your sidemarkers blink and this will decrease the chance of a "I did'nt know he was turning" excuse.Not to "TOOT" my own horn but these are a great compliment to my Parking light harness. As your side markers will be brighter after installing my parking light harness, the SCP will now make that brighter sidemarker blink, increasing the "Visability Factor of you and Your Z. Period. PLH info is in my signature.DaveA pdf with installation instructions will be posted on my website later this weekend. If you're interested in a set of these, contact Dave as noted above. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share #2 Posted November 22, 2007 Forgot to post a picture. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted November 23, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 23, 2007 Any takers? If these sell good enough, I'll be making a few purchases here at CZC or just contribute to the site. Which I think we all should do, when ever we are at a point that it'll help without hurting.Now that I think of it, I, of all people should be throwing more money this way. When I think of all the invaluable info I've gotten from this site and it's members, It makes me wonder where I'd be without it.THANKS MIKE!!!As I was sying, Any takers. I've already got 5 orders lined up.Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin260z Posted November 23, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 23, 2007 You only mention 240z in your desctiption. Do these conversion pigtails also work with the 260z and 280z? This would be great on a 260z - 280z since the turn signals are not visible at all from the sides.Thanks- Justin Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted November 23, 2007 Justin, I agree that this mod would be even more valuable on a 280Z or large-bumper 260Z. Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the later cars use a completely different style of electrical connector. Dave has been unable to find a source for these (round?) connectors, and so he has not been able to offer his kits in "pre-assembled, plug-n-play" form for the 260Z/280Z cars. This applies to not only this latest part, but also his headlight and parking light relay kits.I know he has been able to offer headlight relay kits for later S30s by leaving off the special plugs and leaving the connection to the car's harness to be done by the owner. That option won't work for these little adapters, as other than the connectors there's very little to them.Short answer - these adapters will fit any Datsun whose parking light pigtail connects to the main harness using the square connector shown in the picture above, and also has the sidemarker pigtail connecting to the main harness in the same area using individual bullet connectors. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 25, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted November 25, 2007 Here's a link to the information page, which also has the download link for the instructions, in PDF format.http://1971.240z.home.comcast.net/extras/sidemarker.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 25, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted November 25, 2007 I have also added these to the Product Review section of the club site here. We encourage any of you who install a set to give honest reviews. Thanks.http://www.classiczcars.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=14&cat=7 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EScanlon Posted November 25, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 25, 2007 Shouldn't this whole thread be in the Vendor's Forum?It's not answering a question, nor is it describing how to do something, it's only plugging a product. This thread is not a one on one item sale, it's a manufactured product with set pricing, quantity discount and generally IS the definition of a "commercial post" per the sticky Mike put up. The only thing missing is Feedback, except that's just been added to the thread.See: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/announcement.php?f=117???E Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpilati Posted November 25, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 25, 2007 Any takers? If these sell good enough, I'll be making a few purchases here at CZC or just contribute to the site. Which I think we all should do, when ever we are at a point that it'll help without hurting.Now that I think of it, I, of all people should be throwing more money this way. When I think of all the invaluable info I've gotten from this site and it's members, It makes me wonder where I'd be without it.THANKS MIKE!!!As I was sying, Any takers. I've already got 5 orders lined up.Dave.Get a Paypal account for crying out loud!!! :knockedou Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted November 26, 2007 Shouldn't this whole thread be in the Vendor's Forum?Yes, Enriqué, it certainly should. Excellent point.Mike, any chance you could create a Vendor forum for this, the alternator adapters and the relay harnesses? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted November 26, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 26, 2007 Get a Paypal account for crying out loud!!! :knockedouPay off US Bank account for me, for crying out loud. Banks can kiss my arse, the only thing they're good for is cashing checks and that's about it.Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-229746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs-ondabrain Posted November 30, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 30, 2007 Just a "BUMP" to let those who have ordered their SCP's withing the last week, The first one has gone out to John H. Jim, your 2 will go out with your Engine harness on Monday.S. Englund = TomorrowWayne = tomorrow.John H. You should have yours already, shipped it out earlier this week.Thanks again to all who ordered 1 or more. I ordered a bunch of parts and should be able to get the next 10 orders out very quickly, so if you're interested in the Sidemarker Conversion for your 240Z, Nows a great time.Thanks again and Don't forget to support your local Zcar site, hint hint. On the way soon Mike.Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/26313-240z-sidemarker-to-turnsignal-conversions-available/#findComment-230258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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