AWC Posted February 28, 2008 Share #13 Posted February 28, 2008 Here's my question: would you rather have this car in its current shape or #299 with a $6500 head start? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yor5150 Posted February 28, 2008 Share #14 Posted February 28, 2008 Here's my question: would you rather have this car in its current shape or #299 with a $6500 head start?I'd take #464 & a $2500 head start! http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=130829http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2662774 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th-Z Posted February 28, 2008 Share #15 Posted February 28, 2008 If memory serves, this gentleman is a one of a kind collector, with many very low VIN cars & many Datsuns in all. If I were in the market for another car (& I'm not), I wouldn't be concerned about deceit with this individual. I think he's one of the "good guys" & has great knowledge about our cars. It's probably why his pictures are applicable to those who know where & what to look for.He may be friends with some visitors to this site I believe. I think I found a website with his cars & how he built a climate controlled garage for them in his back yard. I remember it was an impressive collection. I could be wrong, that's why I keep saying that "I think" & "I believe" but I have a good feeling that I'm correct.You are not wrong and Will properly identified the chap. I have seen the car and I would say that the Ebay ad properly describes it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWC Posted February 28, 2008 Share #16 Posted February 28, 2008 I'd take #464 & a $2500 head start! http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=130829http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2662774I believe this car (#464) was listed on Craigslist for several months with the most recent asking price $2500. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted February 28, 2008 Share #17 Posted February 28, 2008 I too know the seller, I would agree with Will and Chris that he is a stand up, good, guy. He is definately extremely knowledgeable about Z's and I would trust his representation of the car. He is a guy that I would buy a car site-unseen from without reservation. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted February 28, 2008 Share #18 Posted February 28, 2008 I'd take #464 & a $2500 head start! http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=130829http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2662774As for #464....Then you would wind up FAR behind.... in the end. I don't believe that #464 has it's original engine... value is cut in half.... and it would be hard to resell for any thing other than a daily driver... Funny the ad. doesn't seem to mention that...FWIW,Carl B. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yor5150 Posted February 28, 2008 Share #19 Posted February 28, 2008 Thanks for pointing those issues out. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunniwj Posted February 29, 2008 Share #20 Posted February 29, 2008 I agree with Will' Chris and Doug.I also know the seller and he is a standup guy and represents the car well. If some one is wants to pay that price good for him, at least they know what their getting without the BS. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 29, 2008 Share #21 Posted February 29, 2008 As for #464....Then you would wind up FAR behind.... in the end. I don't believe that #464 has it's original engine... value is cut in half.... and it would be hard to resell for any thing other than a daily driver... Funny the ad. doesn't seem to mention that...FWIW,Carl B.Actually Carl, both this seller and the prior owner claimed that this car does have the original engine. From the seller's HybridZ ad linked to above..."The body is straight with a nice blue paint job, the L24 is all original and will be running as soon as I install the new fuel pump. Has some rust issues on the floor boards and rear tailgate area. Actual date of manufacture is 11/69 so its very rare obviously. Tags are up to date. I have three pics on cardomain when I first bought it. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2662774"I posted about this car being for sale in the Hybridz classified last Nov for $3000 (she later dropped her price to $2500 and it probably sold for even less). In her ad she notes it has the original engine (#2389).http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28745&highlight=%23464-Mike Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted February 29, 2008 Share #22 Posted February 29, 2008 Hummm..... I have it last reported for sale in Calif. - by Byron. At that time the original engine serial number was #2389 - but the car had #4642 installed.Pictures of the engine compartment indicated a later engine...Perhaps we need to see #2389's serial number on the block, in the car... to cler this up.FWIW,Carl B. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-238944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynaman75 Posted March 1, 2008 Share #23 Posted March 1, 2008 Ok just to clear things up as I am the new owner or #464. It does NOT have the original engine that was manufacture with the car. The engine installed is #4642 and the plate on the car says it should have #2389 but unfortunately it doesn't. The lady that owned it before had no idea who or when it was changed. I have pics for those that are interested. But I dont believe that it drops the value in half. Phil Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-239017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted March 1, 2008 Share #24 Posted March 1, 2008 But I dont believe that it drops the value in half. PhilHi Phil:The starting bid on #279 is $7,500.00.... The asking price on #357 is $10,000.00...You are asking $4,000.00 for #464.... That's pretty close to half as much...It's really hard to find a 69 production Z - that would be considered to be in "restoreable" condition (restoreable in the sense of a condition grade - being a Classic Car) for much less than $8K today.Did not mean your asking price should be cut in half again - as you have already done that. Spend $35K to restore a matching number car, or spend $35K to do the same for a non-matching number car. The matching number car will sell for $35K and the non-matching number car might sell for $18K.FWIW,Carl B. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/27195-279-listed-on-ebay/?page=2#findComment-239030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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