$30,000 Datsun 240z's....Get yours before it's too late

[John Coffey]

Ahhh,nope.Early HEMI Cudas(pre-70)are virtually non-existant and are not bringing the big bucks unless the car has history.

Plymouth Barracuda's powerd by the Chrysler 425 Hemi were built in the 1967 model year. About 5 were hand built by the Chrysler engineering staff in 1967 as prototypes for the SS/B NHRA class. These, along with the 50 to 75 1968's that were built under contract to Chrysler by HURST dominated SS/B and SS/BA in 1968 and 1969.

Here's a link to the text of the dealer announcement letter:

http://www.musclecargarage.com/Chryslerannouncementletter.html

They are very rare but they did exist and could be ordered by any customer with money and a signed waiver.

[five&dime]

Diseazd is my father. I am a gen-x'er born in 1979. I grew up listening to STP and the likes.

I am currently driving one of my dream cars which was new when I was in HS and got my license. That is my 1992 BMW 5'er. I am also driving another vehicle which was my dream SUV. 87 pathfinder SE 4x4 5 spd in like new condition. It is currently my fathers, but I drive it in the rain and while I am building the 5'er into a turbo monster. I will be purchasing it from him in the next month or so.

My dream project is a 510. I also like the 69-70 Charger and any E body challenger or cuda.

I think a lot of the Gen-x'ers want not only we loved growing up and couldn't afford, but also the cars our parents grew up owning and working on. Just as I love listening to the music of the 70's and 80's. There is a nostalgia of the era that our parents grew up on which seems to come into light for the children when we get to our late 20's- early 30's. At least that's the way it is with me.

[sblake01]

I think you nailed it. My son was born in 1980. He drives a nicely set up 1993 Nissan Altima GXE but he's crazy about my vehicles. But it may not be the same for GEN-X'ers whose parents were not 'car guys' like were all obviously are or we wouldn't be on this site. Children of non 'car guy' parents would have a different approach to what would be their 'dream car'.

[Carl Beck]

does the model year affect the value of a #1 240z? would a 73 be worth less than a 70 in same condition?

Yes, the 73 would bring slightly less money and it would take longer to find a buyer. For some reason the first of a desirable model run, always seems to be the most "pure" of form (styling) and "function", so it usually (although not always) demands the highest prices. Other times it's the last of that model that has the most improvements incorporated and thus becomes either the first or second most sought after. 55,56,57 T-Birds, 63-67 Corvette, 64-67 Pontiac GTO's.

The 1973 240-Z's here in North America will always be hurt by the extended bumpers, emissions carb's. How big the gap in value between the 70-72 and 73's will be - I believe will depend on now many cars in total are saved... far better to have a 73 240-Z, than no 240-Z.

also in competition, would a 73 with round top carbs be deducted pionts?

Yes - non-Stock Carb.'s on a 73 would put you in the Modified Class many places, and many points would be deducted - carb.'s wrong, air cleaner wrong, intake manifold wrong.... plus all the points for wrong parts associated with the emissions equipment...

FWIW,

Carl B.

[hls30.com]

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Yes - non-Stock Carb.'s on a 73 would put you in the Modified Class many places, and many points would be deducted - carb.'s wrong, air cleaner wrong, intake manifold wrong.... plus all the points for wrong parts associated with the emissions equipment...

FWIW,

Carl B.

Carl,

Maybe you ment to put "or in the stock class," instead of the "and"

meaning:

Yes - non-Stock Carb.'s on a 73 would put you in the Modified Class many places, or in the stock class, many points would be deducted - carb.'s wrong, air cleaner wrong, intake manifold wrong.... plus all the points for wrong parts associated with the emissions equipment...

Just a thought, as most of the modified classes don't deduct unless you have too many, or the wrong type(for the class) of modification.

Will

[Carl Beck]

Yes - correct - thank you Will...

Carl B.

[26th-Z]

Interesting conversation...my comments:

There are professional appraisers who will prepare an appraisal for the insurance you desire. This proceedure is quite common.

I concur that there are examples of Zs currently trading in the 30k range. I expect that to go much higher in the next five years. But we aren't talking about cars that are driven.

The generational buyer profile is but one of many reasons people buy cars for collector purposes.

CW-

[Walter Moore]

It is nice to see the value of our cars climb over time, but never forget that the value of all collector cars rises and then eventually falls to a much lower level eventually. Go track the auction price history of Model-T, or Model-A Fords over the last 50 years.

I am afraid that a lot of people who have spend 5 figure sums for old Mustangs, and 6 digit prices for some of the Chrysler products may be in for a rude surprise when they have to unload those cars later in life.

A friend of mine had that experience when he helped sell his father-in-law's Model-A roadster. It was an unhappy wakeup call to be sure.

[Z train]

JC,you're missing a "cubic inch".

[kats]

Hello,

I would like to tell " how much " in Japan right now.

I have to say $30K+ condition 240Z in the U.S. is priced $60K in Japan.Now I have been watching 2 U.S. 240Zs(Vintage Z program car, red and gold both 70') they are on sale $60K in Japan but nobody wants to buy it for that price.

In Japan, an U.S. 240Z is lowest price range.Japanese people want to pay over $60K for a Z432 if it is not so good condition . Z432R is over $100K, Fairlady 240ZG is like $50K. Japanese people's MAX money for really clean U.S. 240Z is $20-30K.A not so good U.S. 240Z is like $10K -15K. (These are all my own impression)

How much does serious U.S. collector pay for a Z432R?

My guess is,20 years later I will be 60 years old , I do not think there will be much remaining professional restorers(I mean really skilled mechanic who used to work at Nissan factory when he was young in 70') can take care of my Zs, nor there will be much remaining parts for Zs.

In Japan people around 50 to 60 years old lead the pricing for vintage cars.What will happen 20 years later ? Only few enthusiasts will be remaining.The price range for Zs will be going down in 20 years.

kats

[John Coffey]

JC,you're missing a "cubic inch".

My wife tells me that all the time...

[five&dime]

^hahaha