OniZ Posted November 26, 2009 Share #1 Posted November 26, 2009 I have a friend in the performance industry that is interested in build coilovers for a few of the older car that lack a strong backing in the performance area, such as the 240z, Cressida, and 510 just to name a few. While I know that a few companies make a coilover using a kit and stut/shock the coilover I'm refering too would be the real deal from one company. I'm here gauging interest in this product, I don't have a price yet but interest will dictate a general price and availablity of them. The more the better so if your interested list your name, car, year of car, and what you do with the car. This will help give an idea on what cars will be covered and the type of setups that will be available.Quality of the product will be first rate. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmortensen Posted November 26, 2009 Share #2 Posted November 26, 2009 What is the difference between the coilovers that we've all been using for decades and "the real deal"? Are they something other than a threaded sleeve, a nut to go on that sleeve, and a top hat for the top of the spring? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/#findComment-301392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted November 26, 2009 Share #3 Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I don't know about the Cressida - there are so few of them - but given the Z and 510 are 40 year old cars - I'd have to say that it is amazing how much performance equipment is still offered for them.What do you mean by "the real deal" ??? If you install a good coil over kit, or have someone else do it - it is as real a deal as you can get... Yes/No? What would your friend offer that is any different than a pre-installed kit?Without a firm price - how could anyone know if they would be interested or not?Quality is defined by the customer - if you don't know exactly what your potential customer wants - how would you know what first rate is?I'd tell my friend - gather a lot of information from the customers in that market -find out what it is that they want to buy - then design a product that meets their needs and exceeds their expectations. Then start selling it...FWIW,Carl B. Edited November 26, 2009 by Carl Beck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/#findComment-301393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniZ Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted November 26, 2009 Ok by real I mean a coilover that isn't a kit and by kit I mean one that isn't a sleeve around a shock. The unit would be one piece completely self contained, that's why I refer to it as "the real deal". And perhaps it was bad wording on my part to refer to it as "the real deal"The cressida is he's idea and his choice if he has intentions to do a set for those he will, I know the cressida is used mainly for drifting ( as far as I know).True I don't know what the customer wants and neither does my friend that is why I'm here asking people to give some input any is better than none. Right now a starting point is trying to be setup and improvements will go on from there as long as the want for more is. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/#findComment-301415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted November 26, 2009 Share #5 Posted November 26, 2009 From a manufacturing viewpoint, the S30 chassis (240/260/280Z) will take a huge investment to build what you refer to as "true" coil-overs. Both front and rear strut housing on these cars have integrated, forged and machined suspension and brake mounting bosses, plus the front includes the spindle and the rear includes the wheel bearing housing. No way to do reproduce this in small numbers. That's why all coilovers for early Zs have been sleeve kits, because the other way isn't economically feasible in anything other than mass-production quantities. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/#findComment-301432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmortensen Posted November 26, 2009 Share #6 Posted November 26, 2009 Ok by real I mean a coilover that isn't a kit and by kit I mean one that isn't a sleeve around a shock. The unit would be one piece completely self contained, that's why I refer to it as "the real deal". And perhaps it was bad wording on my part to refer to it as "the real deal"The cressida is he's idea and his choice if he has intentions to do a set for those he will, I know the cressida is used mainly for drifting ( as far as I know).True I don't know what the customer wants and neither does my friend that is why I'm here asking people to give some input any is better than none. Right now a starting point is trying to be setup and improvements will go on from there as long as the want for more is.The important part of this whole thing is the strut. If the strut you have is crap then the coilover threads being integrated into it means relatively little. If you have a good strut that you can use to build this, then you might have something, but I think the selling point is going to be the quality of the strut, not the fact that the threads aren't on a sleeve.You might want to check this out: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=138601And this: http://www.arizonazcar.com/coil.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/33945-coilovers-for-the-240z/#findComment-301440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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