My 10K Original Mile 240z for Sale Discussion

[oemz]

The car was originaly listed for $10K when first advertised.

Lone,

You know I always assumed it was a 1971 because of the center console. and flick hazard on the dash versus the pull type. Mayeb it's a 1971? Not sure but it looks pretty good

[7T1240]

According to zhome.com, 904 White '72 240Zs only came with red interiors. Perhaps there is more to the salvage title than just the small accident. It could have gone into a body of water and the interior was changed out to black.

Hello Steve. The exterior / interior color combo is an interesting question. I remember back in 2006, there was a fellow who had his car at Canby, and Arne snapped a picture of it. Here is that photo:

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=21389

The car pictured was for sale at the time. One owner. Again, according to the zhome chart, this 1973 (115 Blue exterior) should have had beige (off white) interior). But the original owner stated that the car came with a black interior. Might this be the case with the 1972 white also?

The car was originaly listed for $10K when first advertised.

Lone,

You know I always assumed it was a 1971 because of the center console. and flick hazard on the dash versus the pull type. Mayeb it's a 1971? Not sure but it looks pretty good

oemz, what is the build month / year? on the door jamb i.d. plate? Also, just out of curiousity, is all the glass in the repaired vicinity Nissan glass? And what's in the trunk for a spare?

Gary S.

Edited January 15, 2011 by 7T1240
Corrected to Blue 115 as noted by herbsteiner

[Mike B]

According to zhome.com, 904 White '72 240Zs only came with red interiors. Perhaps there is more to the salvage title than just the small accident. It could have gone into a body of water and the interior was changed out to black.

Steve, I would have sworn that 904 white always had black interiors as an option, with blue interiors also available on the 1970 and 1971 and red available on the 1972 and 1973 model years. Here is a page from TS71-47, which introduced the 1972 model year. Notice that it only lists one color interior for each exterior color, but it has asterisks for the new colors, so maybe they are just listing the new color combinations for those new colors?

The zhome site lists the following references for the information listed:

Documentation Of Exterior and Interior Colors

Note 1: Factory Service Bulletin, May 1970 Vol. 125 - "Introduction of Datsun 240Z Sports Model S30 Series".

Note 2: Factory Service Bulletin, February 1971, Vol. 137 -"Introduction Of Datsun 240Z Sports Model S30 Series (1971 Late Models)

Note 3: Factory Service Bulletin, Volume 171 -"Introduction Of Datsun 240Z Model S30 Series (1973 Models)

Volume 171 states the following: Please note: The Foreword states that " This Service Bulletin has incorporated only the descriptions and specifications for the modification parts and newly designed mechanism and others, but has not introduced the items continued from the present model vehicle."

There is no source listed for the 1972 model year information and the "Note 3" regarding the 1973 information says it "has not introduced the items continued from the present model vehicle." I wonder if that is the same for the 1972 model introduction?

-Mike

Edited January 15, 2011 by Mike B

[herbsteiner]

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=21389

The car pictured was for sale at the time. One owner. Again, according to the zhome chart, this 1973 (155 Blue exterior) should have had beige (off white) interior). But the original owner stated that the car came with a black interior. Might this be the case with the 1972 white also?

Gary S.

Gary

I have a '73 in metallic blue with beige interior. The paint code decal is unreadable, but the zhome paint code page calls that color 115 Blue Metallic. Is that the color you were referring to?

Herb

sorry to go off-topic... carry on!

[7T1240]

Yes Herb, duly noted and edited in the previous post. Nice car, BTW.

Gary

[ajmcforester]

A car like that needs documentation to be worth a lot. People are looking for well documented cars to show in the preservation class, that has become very popular, and about time if you ask me. This car lacks paperwork from what I see, in fact the paperwork it has devalues the car, a salvage title. Now knowing it was in a accident will devalue a car but not knowing what happened, and no documentation on how it was repaired is even worse. However the car looks to be a clean example with low millage, if the damage was repaired well the car might sell for over 10,000 and would be surprised if over 20,000 I'm thinking about 12,000

[Carl Beck]

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The questions about the actual mileage are a fog-ball. Any way you look at it - it is a rebuilt wreck and the mileage is meaningless.

Nothing so rare about the car as to justify risking your time and money on it's future value - If one is going to spend $7K to $10K there are still lots of clean 240Z's out there that represent a far better purchase decision.

If this one drives out OK - you might spend $5K for a daily driver or weekend auto-cross car, but it's not a car you would want to put much more money and time into.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[cygnusx1]

Maybe not as an investment, but from the pictures, it looks like it is original, albeit "repaired". Which I would take over a marginal backyard "rustoration" any day, upon inspection. Marginal rustorations are going for more the 5k if they "look" good with no regard to history or paperwork. This is a step above those cars, IF it was repaired right, and is not just lipstick. Rust runs deep, even after a repair there is usually rust in places you don't or can't see. Accident damage ends at the damage zone if you know what I mean. It's akin to cancer versus a broken leg. A rust free chassis with original panels and glass, and all original parts intact and functional, with no cut and weld rust repairs has got some value to us middle budget, non-collectors. It's probably matching number as well. The interior color could easily have been changed with a can of spray.

This is a car that should go on a bidding site with professional pictures and possibly with an independent appraisal. The parts alone are well worth the asking price.

Edited January 15, 2011 by cygnusx1

[Healey Z]

The car is worth what someone will pay for it.

It would be difficult, but you may be able to find the right buyer willing to pay $10K. In my market in Nor Cal I think for $6-$7K you could sell the car in a few weeks.

[roy-73-240z]

Its up for sale at zcar.com for 10k or b/o with the same pictures.

hxxp://www.zcar.com/cars_sale_1970-83_240z_260z_280z_280zx/10k_original_mile_240z_895784.0.html

and also

hxxp://www.datsunclassifieds.com/showproduct.php/product/5799/title/1972-10k-original-mile-240z/cat/1

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[Gary in NJ]

Looks like a great driver. Most of the 240's have had some degree of accident repair over their 40-year life; some minor and some major. Most have also had rust repair also of the major and minor category. So here is a car that has has major accident repair but (according to the owner) no rust repair.

If the car checks out straight and true, I really wouldn't care for a driver. It would be nice to know why it has a salvage title. It may be a theft recovery or may have had a fire.

[IdahoKidd]

Another clue might be when the salvage title was issued. If it was when it was relatively new, the damage would likely have been substantial (ratio of repair to purchase price). If it was recently, it doesn't take much to "total" one of these cars. Salvage title would be okay for a driver, but not for a collector car I'd think. Of course, one could always buy my extra title and vin plates...................