dgcamp58 Posted March 30, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 30, 2012 I'm guessing many of you know that the rear hatch window weather strip seal (79-83 280zx) has been out of production for many years with no substitute available. This might be a crazy idea, so I thought i would throw it out there. Thinking of purchasing hatch, breaking out window in order to remove hatch seal & trim intact to reinstall in my 1980 280zx when paint is complete. Body shop destroyed old seal removing window for paint thinking these were readily available. Has anybody gone this route? Think it's doable? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbycar32 Posted March 30, 2012 Share #2 Posted March 30, 2012 The seals are actually salvageable without destroying a hatch if they are in good shape and still pliable. If the seals are old and crusty they wont be pliable enough to use with your glass anyway. So the way i see it, if you cant pull the seal out of another vehicle intact you didnt want it anyway. Black dragon lists new seals for that model pretty cheap actually: http://www.blackdragonauto.com/features/z/zrh3.htm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantf Posted March 30, 2012 Share #3 Posted March 30, 2012 The seals are actually salvageable without destroying a hatch if they are in good shape and still pliable. If the seals are old and crusty they wont be pliable enough to use with your glass anyway. So the way i see it, if you cant pull the seal out of another vehicle intact you didnt want it anyway. Black dragon lists new seals for that model pretty cheap actually: http://www.blackdragonauto.com/features/z/zrh3.htmI see the hatch seal for sale but not the glass seal. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgcamp58 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted March 30, 2012 I've checked Black Dragon and every possible source. They have been out of production for many years. In my search I have read threads back as far as 08 til present. Same problem, no solution except to urethane glass in. I really don't want to do that. I have a lot of time and $ into this restoration. Want to do it right. Check ebay daily hoping somebody finds one on an old dusty forgotten shelf. There are complete seal kits for 70-78 280 but very little for 79-83. Z source had seal, but only for 2+2 model. Dimensions differ greatly Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgcamp58 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted March 30, 2012 Black Dragon has the seals that mount to the body, but not for the glass Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
black gold man Posted March 30, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 30, 2012 This is what i would do. Buy another hatch with glass have the new one painted and installed without pulling the glass.Have your hatch painted also and store it until new rubber is available.I have a nice hatch no wiper with glass and trim i would sell for 100 bucks no rust. Come get it. BGM Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbycar32 Posted March 30, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 30, 2012 This is what i would do. Buy another hatch with glass have the new one painted and installed without pulling the glass.Have your hatch painted also and store it until new rubber is available. BGMYup i see it now, major bummer. BGM has the best plan i think. My car was painted in the 90's with the rubber in place (ive since repainted) and while i wouldnt choose to do that the paint job didnt look terrible around the seals, its not a bad option Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgcamp58 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted March 30, 2012 Not a bad idea. I found a thread from last March that a company called Z specialties was doing R&D for the window gaskets. I gave them a call and spoke to a very nice young lady who is going to talk to "the powers that be" and get back to me to let me know where they are on that. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbycar32 Posted March 30, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 30, 2012 Not a bad idea. I found a thread from last March that a company called Z specialties was doing R&D for the window gaskets. I gave them a call and spoke to a very nice young lady who is going to talk to "the powers that be" and get back to me to let me know where they are on that.I get parts from them all the time. The guy orders stuff from Nissan Japan and claims he can get just about anything. Super nice people Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgcamp58 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted April 1, 2012 What year hatch do you have? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
black gold man Posted April 1, 2012 Share #11 Posted April 1, 2012 1979 no wipe no rust good glass and trim. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgcamp58 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Send message with your contact info. dgcamp58@yahoo.com I could give you a call tomorrow. Edited April 1, 2012 by dgcamp58 incomplete thought Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/42784-79-83-280zx-hatch-window-seal-replacement/#findComment-385941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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