okdan Posted February 22, 2003 Share #1 Posted February 22, 2003 Was looking at this 19,000 mile ZX that just popped up on ebayhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404886579&category=6187In the photo of the odometer the numbers seem unevenWas thinking this is a tell tale sign that the odometer has been rolled back??????? Wondering what others thought?Okie Dan Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZGuy Posted February 22, 2003 Share #2 Posted February 22, 2003 that interior looks pretty rough for a car that has under 20K. I wish they would have added some photos of the engine comparment. The contrast of the shiny exterior paint (white no less) against that faded interior makes me wonder if it was repainted. If I were interested in the car, a request for a complete paper trail of documentation would be in order. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ManyZs Posted February 22, 2003 Share #3 Posted February 22, 2003 Looks like a probable "roll-back" to me. The wear on the seats is a dead giveaway, not only is the leather faded, but it looks to be worn almost to the point it's falling to pieces.... It says the car was stored in the winter? Where? In the hot sun of Miami? I'd say anyone that is interested in this car better do a CarFax report on it first.... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasz Posted February 22, 2003 Share #4 Posted February 22, 2003 Looks like a roll back to me! The uneven numbers are typical of this ploy. I also agree about the extreme wear on the interior, this car have been sat in for well over 20k miles. That is unless the person lived in it...:classic: The paint issue is also suspect, why is the interior looking so faded and the paint looks to be right off the lot? I say repainted! CarFax is a great idea, an even better one may be just to stay away from this car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ManyZs Posted February 22, 2003 Share #5 Posted February 22, 2003 Just for the heck of it I started one of the CarFax reports on the VIN number, it said there were 3 reports on the car. If you want to read the reports, of course you have to pay for it. Seems kinda odd that a car that supposedly has less than 20K on it has any reports at all..... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZmeFly Posted February 23, 2003 Share #6 Posted February 23, 2003 it does seem hard to believe that a car with 20k and ive seen them with 60k and look better inside then that one does.i agree with keith also this is to funny about storing the car in the winter, in miami where its now or was today 78 degrees.god i wish i had to deal with that Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Camouflage Posted February 23, 2003 Share #7 Posted February 23, 2003 What happens when you get to 999999 miles, does it roll over back to 000000? if so, to "roll back" you just attach a drill to the speedo cable and crank it over untill you get to the miles you want. the other method i've heard is taking the speedo apart, which is very dodgey indeed. The ferris bueller method doesn't work (as it didn't work for him either) thats where you jack up the car and run it in reverse.VB to VK Commodore odomoters stop working around 150000 kms, guarenteed!.low mile cars also have problems associated with lack of use. flatspot on the wheel bearings, corrosion, etc. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasz Posted February 23, 2003 Share #8 Posted February 23, 2003 When an odometer reaches 999999 or for some other models it would be 99999 it does roll over to all 0s. This is just a question I hope. Ther is no way this car has over 1 million miles on it, otherwise I'm sure that we would have all heard about it by now. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Camouflage Posted February 24, 2003 Share #9 Posted February 24, 2003 Not the car just the odometer. Ive heard about attaching the speedo cable to a drill and leaving it running to change odometer readings. Just wondered if it was a urban (used car salesman) legend. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
okdan Posted February 24, 2003 Author Share #10 Posted February 24, 2003 I knew a guy back in 82 who owned a zx with the digital dash --- he put in a chip that split the miles. When he was going 80 the speedometer said he was going 40 -- therefor for every 80 miles driven the car only registered 40 miles.Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileageThis was his response>i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney.I think this cements the fact that the miles are fraudulent Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carguyinok Posted February 24, 2003 Share #11 Posted February 24, 2003 Originally posted by Mr Camouflage Not the car just the odometer. Ive heard about attaching the speedo cable to a drill and leaving it running to change odometer readings. Just wondered if it was a urban (used car salesman) legend. Yes, it's true. I think it was in the 80s the car makers changed over from cable driven speedos to elec. The cable driven speedos could be hooked up on a drill and run. The down side is that most drills will only run around 15 - 20 MPH. so do the math on how long this could take. :stupid: Not that its worth the time anyway. Most titles have the miles printed on them for what it was at time of transfer. Was thinking this is a tell tale sign that the odometer has been rolled back??????? YES, with that odometer it has 6 numbers not 5 like the early cars. The numbers will jog with that odometer as the miles change BUT look at the first number. The one is starting to come up (you can see the top of it) this should not be unless the miles are around 99,000 . Who would want to turn back the miles on a zx anyway :stupid: What happens when you get to 999999 miles, does it roll over back to 000000? Yes. Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileage This was his response >i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney. Hmmm I would stay far away from a dealership that say's they have a attorney on the staff. That attorney must be good if there running to the court house in a $2500 ZX Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenk Posted February 25, 2003 Share #12 Posted February 25, 2003 If the seller is a dealer then he should be able to provide a CarFax report. [Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileage This was his response >i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney. Hmmm I would stay far away from a dealership that say's they have a attorney on the staff. That attorney must be good if there running to the court house in a $2500 ZX Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/4818-low-mileage-or-rollback/#findComment-27863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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