Matthew Abate Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share #1009 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Oh, I didn’t know you had one. I assume you didn’t have any of the quality control issues or the problem with the cap? Have you discussed it in any of your threads? Edited July 14, 2022 by Matthew Abate Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted July 15, 2022 Share #1010 Posted July 15, 2022 Miscommunication, I have not had the 123. I know several people who have it and I like everything I have read about. I know the caps can be a problem but I have seen solutions for that. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share #1011 Posted July 17, 2022 I installed my rear glass today and I have a problem. I can’t get the window to seat so that the two top corners are adequately covered by the weatherstripping. You can see above that there’s a sizable gap. This is the right side, which is the worse of the two. Am I stuck pulling the glass and doing this over again, or is there a trick I don’t know? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freez74 Posted July 17, 2022 Share #1012 Posted July 17, 2022 Installing the shiny trim should push the rubber out. But I never tried installing it after the glass was in the car, so I'm not sure if that's the best way. Is that the Precision rubber seal? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share #1013 Posted July 17, 2022 Good call on the metal trim. I didn’t realize it needed to go in before the window was installed because the several videos I watched of people doing this didn’t do that. I got the seal from Z Car Depot a while ago and threw out the bag with the house trays on Friday, so I don’t know which one it is. I pulled the window out this morning and have a tube of silicone lubricant coming in the mail tomorrow. I’ll put the metal trim on first and try again when I’m better prepared. 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freez74 Posted July 17, 2022 Share #1014 Posted July 17, 2022 I bought a Precision gasket and installed the trim before putting the glass in the car. I used soapy water and a tiny dull screwdriver to work the trim into the rubber. It wasn't that hard, but time consuming. I didn't have any issues with the corners not closing up. Try not to get that silicone on your paint. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted July 17, 2022 Share #1015 Posted July 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, Freez74 said: I bought a Precision gasket and installed the trim before putting the glass in the car. I used soapy water and a tiny dull screwdriver to work the trim into the rubber. It wasn't that hard, but time consuming. I didn't have any issues with the corners not closing up. Try not to get that silicone on your paint. Tools from this kit may be more gentle on the paint than an old screwdriver. https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/trim-and-molding-tool-set-5-pc-64126.html 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share #1016 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Okay, I’ve pulled the window twice and am still having this problem with the top corners. Maybe this seal sucks. It has the right number that corresponds with the Precision seal, but it didn’t come in one of their green bags, so I’m not certain. It was part of a Z Car Depot kit and they aren’t great about fixing issues like this. Edited July 19, 2022 by Matthew Abate Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zKars Posted July 20, 2022 Share #1017 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) I know you can’t have anything in backwards, the seal has molded corners at the top and you just make it fit around the lower corners, which is why it doesn’t worth a good gal darn….. That is one nasty seal for sure. Does that seal have four molded corners? I just pulled three precision rear window gaskets, all are top corner molded only. The OEM gasket has 4 moulded corners, which I feel you absolutely need to get those bottom corners to fit right. You might have to glue those corners into the curve of the hatch somehow. I’ve had this issue too but never this bad. BTW. Corn starch is now my absolute favorite rubber lube for window seal installs. And it works on putting the trim in the groove afterward too. So slick, so dry, so easy to clean up, so cheap. Edited July 20, 2022 by zKars 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share #1018 Posted July 20, 2022 It’s molded in the top corners for sure. The bottom ones have a curve but it’s not pronounced, so you could say they’re molded sort of. I don’t know how you would glue in the corners. It would require pressure keeping it against the hatch and the window should supply that. I guess you could glue it in without the window, fit the rest of the seal around the glass, and then complete the installation, but I am betting that would be REALLY tough to pull off. I think I’m going to have to leave this in for now and redo it later with a new seal. I need to get on to other things. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zKars Posted July 20, 2022 Share #1019 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Check with vintage rubber and see if their seal is any different. I’ve only installed one of those and don’t recall if the seal was molded more in those lower corners or not. I get your frustration. Just looking for an OEM gasket. Courtesy Nissan on ebay? https://www.ebay.com/itm/275142887420 Edited July 20, 2022 by zKars Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share #1020 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) I reached out to Z Car Depot about it and they pointed me to the OEM seal as well. It’s a Nissan part, so I am wondering if that is the best option. Pissed I have to drop another pile of cash on this. BTW, that seal is cheaper on Courtesy’s website than in their eBay auctions. Edited July 20, 2022 by Matthew Abate 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/51541-1973-rebuild/?page=85#findComment-642691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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