Matthew Abate Posted September 17, 2022 Share #433 Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) It’s a full system, so part numbers include the header. I found three: 15413 15415 15418 Edited September 18, 2022 by Matthew Abate Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason240z Posted September 18, 2022 Share #434 Posted September 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Matthew Abate said: It’s a full system, so part numbers include the header. I found two: 15-413 15-415 Hi, I really can't see them being different apart from the diff section. `performance is quoted as exactly the same, it'd make no sense as its only that section that needs changing or that has changed... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Dezart Posted September 18, 2022 Share #435 Posted September 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, Jason240z said: Hi, I really can't see them being different apart from the diff section. `performance is quoted as exactly the same, it'd make no sense as its only that section that needs changing or that has changed... So please be the guinea-pig and buy it :-) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted September 18, 2022 Share #436 Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Dezart said: So please be the guinea-pig and buy it 🙂 I couldn't possibly imagine why you'd be asking so many questions about Fujitsubo's Legalis systems, or be so exercised about finding out as much as possible about them. Have you ever considered making and selling your own exhaust systems? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason240z Posted September 18, 2022 Share #437 Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Dezart said: So please be the guinea-pig and buy it 🙂 I will. Please stick to your own threads without destroying the whole internet. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Dezart Posted September 18, 2022 Share #438 Posted September 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, HS30-H said: I couldn't possibly imagine why you'd be asking so many questions about Fujitsubo's Legalis systems, or be so exercised about finding out as much as possible about them. Have you ever considered making and selling your own exhaust systems? Then sir, you lack any imagination. :-) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Dezart Posted September 18, 2022 Share #439 Posted September 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Jason240z said: I will. Please stick to your own threads without destroying the whole internet. Drink your own medicine ; you and the Count follow me around everywhere ! However, in a free world, anyone can post when and where he (or she) likes - no ? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason240z Posted September 18, 2022 Share #440 Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Sean Dezart said: Drink your own medicine ; you and the Count follow me around everywhere ! However, in a free world, anyone can post when and where he (or she) likes - no ? its all in your head. you post on my threads. Why don't we start threads on your exhausts speaking about the following issues with Zstory: Lead times, taking money upfront and not delivering for months, having a whole range of reasons why things are delayed, fitting and quality issues, problems with having everything made in China and not having a close enough control of manufacturing, lack of technical information, lack of technical drawings, lack of Dyno development, lack of actual knowledge. Edited September 19, 2022 by Jason240z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted September 18, 2022 Share #441 Posted September 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sean Dezart said: ...you and the Count follow me around everywhere ! Mostly in your head. Rent free. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted September 18, 2022 Share #442 Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) This is the information Fujitsubo has listed on their product description for the EPU system: Product Name - EXH PERFORMANCE UNIT (Legalis) Item Number - 050-15413 Price Price - ¥313,500 (Base price: ¥285,000) JAN Code - 4944997019149 Supported model application - S30 Fairlady Z 2 Seater Body Type - S30 (2 Seater only, Manual Transmission vehicles only) Engine type - L20 Year - 1969.11 - 1975.9 Special Notes: Compatible with low-down [lowered] vehicles It is a set of EX manifold + muffler (4 divisions). It is not compatible with genuine and other exhaust parts. Common to Solex, Weber Cab, and SU Cab Genuine SU cab car * Heat shielding required It cannot be installed in a car equipped with a genuine air cleaner box. Specifications: Outlet shape Tailip Style - φ50.8 slash (W, vertical) Pipe Diameter Pipe Diamet er - EX: φ45.0-50.8, Muffler: φ50.8 Dual List of Fitting Parts 080-35098 Plate Gasket Plate Gasket x 3 M8 x 35mm Bolt x 9 12 M8 spring washers M8 Nut x 12 M8 x 25mm Bolt x 3 M8 plate washer (small) x 9 S30 exclusive metal fittings (band type φ50.8) x 3 Dedicated bracket for S30 [A] x 1 Dedicated bracket for S30 [B] x 1 Dedicated bracket for S30 [C] x 1 Insulation mat (80 x 100) x 1 Stainless steel wire (l250) x 2 Product Name - EXH PERFORMANCE UNIT (Legalis) Item Number - 050-15415 Price Price - ¥313,500 (Base price: ¥285,000) JAN Code - 4944997019156 Supported model application - S30 Fairlady Z 2 Seater Body Type - S30 (2 Seater only, Manual Transmission vehicles only) Engine type - L20 Year - 1969.11 - 1975.9 Special Notes: Compatible with low-down [lowered] vehicles It is a set of EX manifold + muffler (4 divisions). It is not compatible with genuine and other exhaust parts. Common to Solex, Weber Cab, and SU Cab Genuine SU cab car * Heat shielding required It cannot be installed in a car equipped with a genuine air cleaner box. Specifications: Model Type - R200 Diff compatible model Outlet Shape Tailip Style - φ50.8 slash (W, vertical) Pipe Diameter Pipe Diameter EX: φ45.0-50.8, Muffler: φ50.8 Dual List of Fitting Parts 080-35098 Plate Gasket Plate Gasket x 3 M8 x 35mm Bolt x 9 12 M8 spring washers M8 Nut x 12 M8 x 25mm Bolt x 3 M8 plate washer (small) x 9 S30 exclusive metal fittings (band type φ50.8) x 3 Dedicated bracket for S30 [A] x 1 Dedicated bracket for S30 [B] x 1 Dedicated bracket for S30 [C] x 1 Insulation mat (80 x 100) x 1 Stainless steel wire (l250) x 2 --- This is what I found on JDM Car Parts: Part number: #15-510-15418 Fujitsubo EPU Stainless Steel Dual Exhaust System for Datsun 240Z / Nissan Fairlady Z S30 L6 Engine L6 L20-L28 Engine Headers: 6-2 Type / 45mm at 6 and 50.8mm at 2 Exhaust pipe: 45 mm to 50.8 mm 50.8 mm at Straight section This system is for triple carburetor set up Designed to work with lowered suspension set up. Works with RHD / LHD car Works with R200 Differential set up Comes with insert for O2 Sensor set up (O2 sensor is not included) Caution: It does not come with manifold gasket (Stock manifold gasket works with this headers) Caution: Exhaust hangers are Not included. You need to use stock hangers --- This is what I found on RHD: Fairlady Z S30 GS30 HS30 2-Seater Part Num: 050-15415 Series: Exh Performance Unit EPU Legalis Material: Stainless Steel (SUS304) Tip Type: Slash (W Vertical) Tip Diameter (mm): 50.8 X 2 Pipe Diameter (mm): 50.8 --- This is what I found on Blackhawk Japan: Series Name: EXH PERFORMANCE UNIT (LEGALIS) Product Number - 050-15415 Compatible Car - FAIRLADY Z 2-SEATER S30 Product Description Body model: -S30 Engine model: L20 Year: S44.11 to S50.9 (1969.11 to 1975.9) Tailtip Style: φ50.8 Slash (W, vertical) Pipe Diameter : EX: φ45.0-50.8, Muffler: φ50.8 Dual Fitting Parts: 080-35098 Plate Gasket × 3 M8 × 35mm Bolt × 9 M8 Spring Washer × 12 M8 nut x 12 M8 x 25mm bolt x 3 M8 plate washer (small) x 9 S30 dedicated metal fitting (band type φ50.8) x 3 S30 dedicated bracket [A] x 1 S30 dedicated bracket [B] x 1 S30 dedicated bracket [C] x 1 Insulation mat (80 x 100) x 1 Stainless steel Wire (l250) x 2 Peak Power: Standard (STD): -dB FUJITSUBO: 95dB Peak Torque: Standard (STD): -dB FUJITSUBO: 92dB Proximity Exhaust Noise: Standard (STD): -dB FUJITSUBO: 89dB Remarks Safety standard compliant product 2-seater only MT car only Low-down car compatible R200 differential compatible EX manifold + muffler (4 divisions) set product Not compatible with genuine and other exhaust parts Common to Solex, Weber cab, and SU cab vehicles Genuine SU cab vehicles Heat shield shield required Vehicles with genuine air cleaner box cannot be installed Notes: Images are for illustration purpose only. Actual product may vary. --- So it looks like 15413 is for an r180 differential and 15415 is for an r200 differential, but the information is so inconsistent from one retailer to another that I am not sure about any of it. I don't know if 15418 is a typo or what. I see exhaust hangers in the illustration and think that's what the brackets in the parts inventories are, but who knows. Another thing I am finding is HUGE swings in price, from $1,404.46 to $3,299.00, and that is just within the EPU versions. I reached out to JDM Car Parts but he hasn't responded yet. I have also reached out to Fujitsubo and Greenline Motorsports. Maybe one of them will respond. Edited September 18, 2022 by Matthew Abate 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason240z Posted September 18, 2022 Share #443 Posted September 18, 2022 I'll email the UK importer and see if they can help. I'll also try fujitsubo. I'll place a sportsman's bet on it just being the section before the silencer that varies. I do wonder why they didn't do it that way initially. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Abate Posted September 18, 2022 Share #444 Posted September 18, 2022 I think you’re right. I would rather have the split one (15415) so the pipes tuck up better, but I don’t want to order it and find out it doesn’t line up with the twin pipe indentations on the r180 crossmember. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/56953-new-fujitsubo-exhaust-system-to-be-released/?page=37#findComment-645561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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