240260280 Posted January 12, 2019 Share #37 Posted January 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Gav240z said: For me the sad part is that they are Chinese knocks offs of unknown quality and standards. READ THIS https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/manufacturing/tens-of-thousands-of-counterfeit-wheels-made-in-china-are-on-australian-roads-experts-warn/news-story/bbf2565440a7ddf0c291a7ef9c4e9815 Watch This 2 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-565821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav240z Posted January 14, 2019 Share #38 Posted January 14, 2019 Yes I've seen that video, to go slightly off topic for a second in China there is an expression Chabuduo! which means close enough … https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-565928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP260Z Posted January 14, 2019 Share #39 Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 12:53 PM, Gav240z said: For me the sad part is that they are Chinese knocks offs of unknown quality and standards. We don't know the full story on these rally/z432 style wheels, it could well be the seller got these made, rather than a generic buy, so could have had more control on the process/end product. As with most things made in China, its driven by a desire of the West for goods and that are cheap. Even when made elsewhere (e.g. a S30 group buy) the people expressing interest falls when they realize the actual cost. People want quality for peanuts, and that doesn't work. 4 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-565936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted January 14, 2019 Share #40 Posted January 14, 2019 The other possibility is these are not sub par wheels but made to a decent standard. Since some of the buyers may be running them on expensive classic cars. Hard to know, unless you know the source and their reputation. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-565966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav240z Posted January 15, 2019 Share #41 Posted January 15, 2019 14 hours ago, RIP260Z said: We don't know the full story on these rally/z432 style wheels, it could well be the seller got these made, rather than a generic buy, so could have had more control on the process/end product. Have you bought a set yourself? I was tempted, but I'm somewhat holding off for now. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-565985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP260Z Posted January 17, 2019 Share #42 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 4:23 AM, Gav240z said: Have you bought a set yourself? I was tempted, but I'm somewhat holding off for now. I have. Though I brought them in early December last year, well before Kats introduced us to them on this thread. I had nothing to go on, except I had seen the seller selling stuff for years and a good reputation. I got them yesterday. I haven't really had a chance to look at them yet (hence partly the delayed reply). From what I see on-line only, they are selling, more of the rally replica style than the Z432 replica style. 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVILC Posted January 18, 2019 Share #43 Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 9:06 AM, kats said: Hi , BH Auction at Tokyo has just ended tonight, the results are not pretty compared to the last year . All prices are million JPY 1971 Z432 13.0→ NO BID Kats Kats, what kind of shape was the 1971 z432 in to have no bids at all? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted January 18, 2019 Share #44 Posted January 18, 2019 10 hours ago, RIP260Z said: I have. Though I brought them in early December last year, well before Kats introduced us to them on this thread. I had nothing to go on, except I had seen the seller selling stuff for years and a good reputation. I got them yesterday. I haven't really had a chance to look at them yet (hence partly the delayed reply). From what I see on-line only, they are selling, more of the rally replica style than the Z432 replica style. Do you have a link to the seller? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav240z Posted January 18, 2019 Share #45 Posted January 18, 2019 Narrow Z432 version. 14" 5.5J+25 PCD114.3 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t619435989 Wide version (works rally/Z432-R style) 14" 7J-16 PCD114.3 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u253744024 Seller name: punsupon https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/seller/punsupon?ngram=1&u=punsupon Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiyabrad Posted January 18, 2019 Share #46 Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) On 3/1/2017 at 12:13 PM, Lumens said: Here we go again. March 11-12. http://www.rmsothebys.com/am17/amelia-island/lots/1970-nissan-fairlady-z-432/1702023 Same car goes on the block tomorrow https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1970-nissan-fairlady-z-432/ Edited January 18, 2019 by hiyabrad Verbiage Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP260Z Posted January 18, 2019 Share #47 Posted January 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Patcon said: Do you have a link to the seller? As Gav points out, I just got them off Yahoo Japan in 4 separate auctions. 1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted January 18, 2019 Share #48 Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, EVILC said: Kats, what kind of shape was the 1971 z432 in to have no bids at all? I can not explain well because I have not seen the car closely. http://bhauction.jp/pdf/catalog/005_1971_NISSAN_FAIRLADY_Z_432.pdf But seeing the other auction which sold a very clean , stock 280Z 2+2 over 40000 USD , I think people want a stock and clean car . If the Z432 were a kind of the one , it would be sold within a estimated price. Nowadays people who are potential- buyer know very well which is original and which is not . I think higher price deserves to a stock and clean car , just like the other classical cars . If this car had a stock coil springs , stock magnesium wheels, and sit it’s correct hight , would have looked much better. And the after market roll bars deduct buyers attention a lot . Other non original small parts , to obtain correct parts is tough but , you would be even enjoying to collect parts for a right shape Z432. Kats Edited January 18, 2019 by kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/57160-fairlady-432-at-auction/?page=4#findComment-566175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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