JSM Posted October 20, 2017 Share #13 Posted October 20, 2017 Remove and weld. I'm kinda surprised you didn't weld the whole thing in. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
240dkw Posted October 20, 2017 Share #14 Posted October 20, 2017 1+ for welding, I would worry that they could work loose if you ground them down. Now that I say that, how will the glue react to the heat from welding? So filling them in with goop makes the most sense. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zKars Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted October 20, 2017 It took me a while to begin to trust these structural adhesives over welding, but I'm convinced. OEM's are using them all over the place. I will have to create a test piece and see what welding heat does after a plug weld. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted October 20, 2017 Share #16 Posted October 20, 2017 Norton says any welding other than resistance welding is a no-no. From the info sheet I found here:http://www.nortonabrasives.com/sites/sga.na.com/files/document/Posters-BestPractices-24x36-NortonAA-8263-MB.pdf "Clamp or screw panel in place for a traditional bond. All products listed have glass beads in them to prevent over clamping. You can use a resistance welder to weld through the Acrylic Metal Bonders while they are in a wet or cured state. You can also use a resistance welder with the Epoxy Panel Bonder, but only while it is in a wet state. If you are using any other type of welder, do NOT weld through any adhesive. Also do NOT weld within 2" of the adhesive." And since I've never, ever, ever, never, ever done anything not recommended by the manufacturer. And always, always, always RTFM and do exactly to the letter what they recommend... I would have to advise against welding. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freez74 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #17 Posted October 20, 2017 I like this method of sunroof repair but also wonder what you will do with the screw holes. Filling does seem the best option, but with what? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
240260280 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #18 Posted October 20, 2017 Remove the screws and fill with same adhesive then skim bondo over. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannyknot Posted October 20, 2017 Share #19 Posted October 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, 240260280 said: Remove the screws and fill with same adhesive then skim bondo over. I agree, seems like the safest way, maybe some very light grinding on top of each hole in case there are any ridges. So how about the inside, do you think the headliner foam is soft enough to accommodate the patch panel without leaving a rectangular bump? How about some sort of hot wire foam cutter? you would only need to shave a 1/16" Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zKars Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Adhesive hole fill is what I'll do. I'm using the MSA head liner, which has darn near a 1/2 thick foam backing. Should hide the bump. Black is the color so even if it's vaguely visible, no one will notice. I could scoop out a 1/16" of foam over the patch if I get creative. Pretty creative foam cutter there. Got plans for it handy? Edited October 20, 2017 by zKars Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
240260280 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #21 Posted October 20, 2017 You could put adhesive sound deadener on the roof (except where the patch is) to make it level then put the roof liner on it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted October 20, 2017 Share #22 Posted October 20, 2017 10 hours ago, 240260280 said: Remove the screws and fill with same adhesive then skim bondo over. Yup, this is the correct method. Heat from welding will break down the panel adhesive Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannyknot Posted October 20, 2017 Share #23 Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, zKars said: Pretty creative foam cutter there. Got plans for it handy? No I don't, it's not mine but it doesn't look like it would be too hard to figure out. Get out your long board sander, that gentle compound roof curve is going to test your skills. This seems like a very good alternative to pulling the whole roof off and replacing it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zKars Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Screws are out, more adhesive goo stuffed into the holes. Clearly welding the holds shut is silly. I will be entrusting the roof shaping to a real body man. That thing is no place to learn sanding technique. I dont do my own drywall either.... Edited October 21, 2017 by zKars 2 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58761-the-rusty-roller-coaster-unusual-good-news/?page=2#findComment-532850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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