How to start an argument...

[TKR514]

But it still seems silly to me....I'm sure that the all the entire world has it's share of "maintenance-ignorant buyers" .

It also seems that there are some "geographically-ignorant" authors out there since America contains Canada, Brazil, Mexico, The United States, etc....

Either way, would not a V8 suffer in the hands of bad maintenance as well as a turbo engine would and therefore they should not send anything to the U.S. market? Just trying to follow the logic here and it's not adding up... Sounds more like this is just a silly comment of a lone writer rather than something that a manufacturer would say....

[halz]

Well, this topic certainly did provoke some discussion didn't it? I certinly did not intend to suggest that our American friends are all 'maintenance-ignorant'... as we all know, every country has its fair share of those people. I am also sure that members of our exlted group are either able to perform maintenance themselves or at least recognise when they cannot!

Re: Turbo mainenance requirements vs non-turbos. I think that the only caution to the owner of a turbo-owner would be on the subject of oil. The type of oil used for turbo applications (if I recall correctly) must be able to cope with turbines that spin at 10s of thousands of RPM rather than simply an engine which may reach 6-7000rpm...

Might be wrong, long time since I drove/owned a turbo car.

[TKR514]

As far as oils, any oil you can buy in the U.S. is gonna be good enough for the requirements of a turbo. The oils are so much better now than even 5 years ago.

Anyone that designs a turbocharger for a mass market that requires aerospace skills to maintain is doing something seriously wrong in the first place... Q.E.D.

[Murph]

TKR514: To generalise a bit, the reason is that a smaller capacity boosted motor, is going to be more so "stressed" than a larger capacity, lower reving NA motor. The more highly stressed an engines state of tune, the greater the importance of proper maintenance on it.

Personally I feel rather strongly that they should stick to a turbo 6. Mind you I wouldn't trust what comes out of wheels mag. Different mags have been telling us what motor would supposedly be in there for ages now. AFAIK the V8 idea was dropped a while back, and they were going to go for a twin turbo VQ33.

Really though...it's just a guessing game till nissan officailly tells us.

[TKR514]

Interesting, but "stress" is also relative. A low compression turbo engine might have less stress than a high compression V8 for day-to-day city driving. I would also assume that the new 350Z N/A is a LOT more stressed at making almost 300HP than an 83ZX turbo making 180HP.

Like I said, it's gotta be one dumb writer's comment instead of a real techical issue.

Just try to find ANY old cars in Nissan's home turf before saying that the U.S. is less capable of keeping cars running for a long time. Maybe THEY are affraid that the home market is unable to keep one in tune well enough to pass Japan's stricter smog standards every year?

[Murph]

Yeha I know what you mean. I was just stating that as a generalisation.

I would have thought that the US gets the NA V8 as that's what they seem to go for. Larger NA motors as a pose to smaller boosted motors? Or maybe that's just what nissan believes.

Same reason the US got the KA24's as a pose the the SR20DET in the silvia's.

[1 Bravo 6]

Hey there halz,

Am I correct in asuming that your original post was done "tongue in cheek"??? You wouldn't have been suggesting that such a rediculous comment was true.

I also treated it as a joke and actually expected our septic cousins to throw some dirt our way.

Speaking of which, I haven't noticed anything from tanny lately.

Rick.

[halz]

Am I correct in asuming that your original post was done "tongue in cheek"???

Rick, my tongue was formly lanted in my check when I typed the original post...alas howver, it IS a direct quote from wheels magazine. Take it as you like, but I think most of the replies have summed up the situation pretty well. That is, there are some mechanical ignoramuses out there whic give rise to the opinion expressed there.

Happily its not one which applies to the broader Z-community!

[biker]

What's a bonnet???????????????????

[halz]

Its that part of the car where you can actually see all the bird $^!# from the inside..!

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by biker

What's a bonnet???????????????????

Surely (Shirley ) you know that a bonnet is a Hood (at least in the US)?

I'm guessing that you were impersonating a "maintainance ignorant" car owner with that inquiry? Yes?

[biker]

Now I know what you are talking about. As Halz explained I always knew it as the birdhsh*t catcher on the front of the car

How come you blokes don't speak the queens bloody english!

A hood is something you put on to make sure the missus doesn't see you out with the boys.

Regards

Shirly Biker Temple:cheeky: